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Eljer toilet

Discussion in 'The DIY Room' started by Beetle-Kill, May 4, 2016.

  1. Beetle-Kill

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    At 1.28/ gal flush, do those pose a problem for someone who eats a lot of burritos? I just want to make sure it will do it's job, after I've done mine.
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    Hold the handle for an extra Mississippi and all your woes will easily head South of the Border......:thumbs:
    :rofl: :lol:
     
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    o_O
     
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    If the kits works you are all set, but if it is an older flush that uses a lot of water, I would give strong consideration to just changing out the toilet. Over all, they are a low cost item. I got a new one that doesn't sweat in the summer, so I don't need that darn mixing valve sending hot water down the flush. I also got got the oblong seat. Many men in this family and I don't want anyone's junk on the seat or rim. Also, I got one that is a bit higher. My wife has a hard time getting off a low set throne. All in all, for a few dimes, you can have the best seat in the house. Everyone is happy.
     
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    Mixing valve?
    Hot water to the toilet?
    More info needed, please
     
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    a lot of newer houses read expensive have warm water go to toilet so toilet doesn't sweat in high humidity area... TD knows this but a toilet sweats when 38 degree water in tank hits 70 degree air ..
     
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    This is toilet they demonstrate with roll of tp... then 24 golf balls... my personal experience.. my phone calls when replaced for clogs dropped almost to none..:thumbs:..

    the price is same for higher and elongated seat so that's what I got!
     
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    Yes , I've seen toilet tanks sweat, but honestly in thirty years I've never heard of a tempering valve on a toilet to stop the sweating. :emb: Maybe it's a North eastern thing....:whistle:.......although there was that time that I crossed 2 pipes in an addition on a house and before I left my buddy's wife asked me why the toilet seat felt warm...:eek:
    In Pa our water comes out of the ground at 54 degrees
     
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    I thought the same thing when i read that..... wasting hot water on a toilet.... wow.
     
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    1 word mold!

    My well 150 feet deep 35 gpm... 125 feet of head. Spec house....my best well 600 feet deep 350,gpm 3 inch overflow that shot 25 feet in air into 1 acre pond great trout fishing :eek: 200psi after overflow ... before overflow blew all solder joint ad facwets ..... ooops:emb:
     
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    Both our 1.28 L, the $99 Aqua Source from Lowes and a more expensive Toto here, flushing wise, they both kick butt over our old ?Xwhatever gallon toilets. (Ha! pun intended :rofl: :lol: ). My test criteria involves a 65lb dog that has an accident once a year in the house. ALSO, our older toilet in Colorado faced an antique claw foot bathtub that I used to help with my knees to sit, accidently bonked my forehead on it a few times while standing up. The "comfort height" of the new toilets are awesome!! Whether you need ADA comfort height or not bet you will appreciate sitting a bit higher.
     
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    Prolly going for the new AS Champion 4 tomorrow. I'll swap the guts out of the Eljer and use it to replace the lo/flo mofo in the upstairs bathroom.
    This is exactly what I wanted to do on my day off. Now, doing a physical size comparison between existing and new.
     
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    The RO should be a standard ~12" to center.
    Measure the fill line and get a new flex hose while you're at it;)
     
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    ^^^this^^^
    dont forget (new bolts-check to see if there in the box) and wax gasket with horn
     
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    Get a couple wax gaskets. Not worth a 30 min drive in case it doesn't go smooth the first time. ;)
     
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    One extra thick with horn and another without horn.

    If your flange is on top of the floor one wax ring should be good. If there is a layer of floor installed around the flange you may need to stack the gaskets. The directions will tell you to stick the gasket on the bottom of the toilet, but Put the gasket with horn on the flange then set the toilet down on it
     
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    Thank you all, it's in and good to go, no leaks (except for the screw valve shut-off, gonna pick up a ball valve to replace).
    Base flange needs replacement but can wait until we do the bathroom remodel. Might even put in another upstairs and permanently retire the Eljer.
    Wax ring had enough height the bowl gave it a good seat. Removing the closet bolts was the worst of it, had to cut them off with a sawzall.
     
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    can you tighten the packing nut?
    might buy you some time
     
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    It's dripping from the screw, depending on turns. Wide open it's a leak, 1-1/2 turns in and it stops. I'll get that fixed tomorrow, have to go back to HD for a screen door handle I forgot to pick up.
     
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