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Dump trailer! need advise

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  1. lukem

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    It is hard to get 10% with a skidsteer on a dump trailer because you have to drive them further toward the tongue than you would on a normal trailer just to get them to fit. I guess it does depend on the size of the machine too.
     
  2. JustWood

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    Do yourself a favor and get a heavy set of jumper cables 25' long. That little hot wire that they rig up on yur truck battery ain't gonna cut it. And the solar battery maintainer is a good idea too.
     
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    The one I'm looking at is a 14', same size as my equipment trailer so should be able to get it close to 10%. But the axles in a dump trailer look to be a little farther back then my equipment trailer.
     
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    Sean, take a second look at gooseneck. If you and your brother are serious about hauling the bobcat around on a 3/4 ton truck, then it's well worth the expense to set up the trucks with the hitches (it's really not that bad to DIY either) and the trailer will hold much more resale than just another 14' dump.

    Also there are rail type hitch systems that let you swap from gooseneck to fifth wheel hitches should you decide to get into campers and such.
     
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    I have 16' dump trailer.Just hauled 4 loads of logs in the last 2 days.Hauls my New Holland ls170 with grapple bucket real nice.Split barn door /spreader gate on rear.
    We have a solar charger on ours but i think its not doing its job.I have an extra battery and cables to hook to it if the trailers battery doesnt hold up for the day.
    I would not recommend a bumper pull for what you describe on doing.You will find with that length trailer and a full capacity load it will unload the rear tires of your truck when dumping..Seen it happen before.Tag trailers with that much gvw will work you and your truck over real good..Bite the bullet and go gooseneck and never look back.I haul all my tools in my truck bed still.You dont loose that much space in your bed.
    I have the rail hitch sytem in my bed of all the trucks on the farm.We can switch from gooseneck to fifth wheel in whatever truck in about 5 minutes.
     
  6. Will C

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    I following this thread closely, as I am thinking a lot about a dump trailer. In my research, I have impressed with Cam Superline and a smaller maker, Griffin.

    My dilemma is my truck-I have Tundra that can tow 7,000lbs. While they make 7,000lb trailers-they don't actually have much more payload than a 5200lb single axle trailer. I will be buying a new truck within a couple of years, and I will buy a truck that can haul 10,000lbs. I guess I'll have to decide whether to wait or pick up one now and maybe trade when I get a bigger truck.
     
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    Anyone have experience with Big Tex dump trailers?
     
  8. WaddleRemodel

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    So here is mine. I've had this since 2002. Wife fought tooth and nail for me not to buy it. Ask her now best investment. I dont't know if these trailer are built regional or not. I'm looking to upgrade to a gooseneck, seven foot by fourteen foot with 14000 lb axles. To fit my skid steer in. Looking at Walton, Titan, and PJ.
    This works great for trash, construction waste. Have to watch it when hauling dirt,concrete and such to not overload it.(broke both springs hauling wood last summer). Before you buy can you rent a few different brands to try them out.

    Waddle
     
  9. swags

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    A few of the roofers here have bumper hitch Appalacian trailers. That's all they use and they haul a lot of weight in them.
     
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  10. JustWood

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    You can cut some 6x6 blocks to fit under the frame rails when dumping. This will prevent the truck rear from coming off ground.
    We block all our tag trailer when loading heavy equipment.
    I wouldn't rule out a bumper hitch trailer for the few times you may haul heavy.
     
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    That's exactly what I'm thinking. I will not be hauling the bobcat much, mostly trash, debris, mulch, dirt ect.
     
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    Agree. Two cylinders would be DA BOMB!
     
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    I know you can get over 5 ton of ag lime in a 7x14 dump. That's probably more than a bobcat weighs? When it comes to this construction stuff, you never know what your going to need. Go as big as you can.
     
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    Unless balanced properly on a two axle...
     
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    An 80+ horse skidsteer on a 14 foot trailer is impossible to get 10% on the tounge. Short trailer with axles set further back than a flatbed makes it extra tounge heavy. I've never scaled it but I'd guess it close to 25% on a gooseneck back when I was toting one around behind a F250 judging by the squat. Do the same thing an extra 2' behind the axles and it wouldn't be any fun to drive.
     
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    You haven't had fun until the trailer swings your azz around like a lasso. NOT.
     
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    Here is my 16' dump.twin cylinder with dual 7k lbs axles. One of the loads of logs I hauled home saturday.I thought I had a pic of the skidloader in it but must've deleted it from my phone.
     

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    I've done that, not fun at all
     
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    Seen the bad results of that. Guy flipped a nice f350. How he didn't get hurt bad I'll never know. The middle of his back was pinned under the window frame. We had to pick it up some and he scooted out on his own.
     
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    Yeah, I agree with JustWood too.

    I have only used bumper pull and we had my buddies bwise loaded heavy with not dry dirt and it was fine. When we dumped it kinda all broke loose at once and it was a decent jolt but didn't hurt anything. If I was pulling that heavy all the time I would have a weight distributing hitch though. I personally wouldn't tow really heavy on a single rear wheel without bags anymore gooseneck or bumper. They make a huge difference in stability and overall drivability. I don't have an onboard compressor but I can see where it would be nice..