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Dry vs Seasoned, what's the difference?

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  1. buZZsaw BRAD

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    Seems like the guy I cut for part time is doing that. Needs seasoned wood for sale now and all the dead ash I bucked was put in totes for immediate sale from what I understand. Some of it was still green and a lot was pretty wet.:picard:
     
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  2. BC Doug Fir

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    I’ve never used the word “seasoned “ since I joined here. Dry is what I burn.
     
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    That’s an AI overview, you can’t believe everything you read on the internet. There are not any rules or laws in Ohio that regulate the moisture content of firewood.
     
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    Another great write up Nord :thumbs: I learned a few new things today. :tip:
     
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  5. Husky Man

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    Not the way that I try to get it, but I have gotten some Dry wood in Log Form

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    These decks(there’s a smaller deck of tops, behind the trailer) were cut making fire breaks for the September 2017 Eagle Creek Fire.

    The Forest Circus opened them to firewood cutters in June of 2019. The top couple layers were stove ready, and giving mid log round, fresh split MC readings of 11-15%:thumbs:

    Deeper into the decks, yeah those were getting readings of 35+%, and needed a full year to season.

    We pulled our “Full” 6 cord :whistle: allotment out of there. It was nice being able to park the trailer literally between the decks




    Doug :cheers:
     
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    I like it to sit split for at least a year, but prefer 2-3. I threw some oak in the stove yesterday and it burst into flames as soon as it hit the coals.
     
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    I was curious so I went digging (before I saw your post). It's weird as there is a bunch or articles and news posts stating that somebody from the agri department had stated it was 50%. But none of the articles link to a specific place or credible source. So I reached out directly to agri.ohio.gov and what I got as a reply is:

    "Ohio's Division of Weights and Measures adopts NIST Handbook 130, Chapter IV Uniform Regulations, Section B Uniform Regulation for the Method of Sale of Commodities. Paragraph 2.4 covers firewood. I have attached the entire document to this email and also inserted the text from paragraph 2.4 below. Moisture content is not addressed."

    I read through it, and sure enough there is no mention of it.
     
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    Cool. It’s hard to believe that AI overview wasn’t factual. Maybe those articles are old, stuff changes all the time. Thanks for the follow up.
     
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    I have read those exact same words here in Wisconsin.

    It makes absolutely no sense to me.

    Do these sellers think that is a selling point?
     
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    You have some dangerous logs where you at? :D
     
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    They sure seem to. I have called out a few and they get upset and try to squirm their way out of it. One guy thought he could sucker me into buying a whole dump trailer of wood after I asked if it was dry. He offered to show up and dump it right in my driveway. As soon as I mentioned using a meter to test fresh splits, I didn’t hear from him again. I don’t buy wood anyway, so no problem.
     
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    Dangerous in what way?

    Those decks were very stable, I don’t recall having any logs move on me at all, that I didn’t expect, or want to move. I drug some off the deck with the pickup at first, but that was a lot slower, and more work than just cutting on the deck, and tossing rounds down by the trailer.

    That was in the Mt. Hood National Forest, near Otter Tail Lake, in Oregon.

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    Doug :cheers:
     
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    Was he we funning about pine, the myth being they're dangerous?
     
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    I dunno maybe, there are a lot of people with the total misconception that Pine (or ANY Conifer) is Guaranteed to burn your house down :rolleyes:

    If it weren’t for Conifers, we wouldn’t have much firewood around here. Douglas Fir is our Premier Firewood in our area, with a lot of White Fir and Hemlock mixed in, on the eastern side of our cutting areas, we get into some Lodgepole, I’ll take that as well. I like lodgepole, it’s a pretty dry wood standing green, not to say it’s stove ready standing, but a much lower MC green than most, and seasons faster than most, burns and smells nice, but does tend to have a spiral grain, kind of like rifling in a gun barrel, that gives some strange splits, but I do like cutting and burning it.


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    Wildwest, I see that you’re in WY, you probably see a lot of Lodgepole around there if I’m not mistaken.

    Like I said, we get some Lodgepole on the eastern fringe of where we cut, but further Southeast of us, around the Bend/La Pine area, Lodgepole grows like weeds. My Mom inherited her parents little place near La Pine, I’ll take a couple saws and the trailer when I go there, but it’s too far to go, just to cut wood, but lodgepole is light enough that I can get around 3 cords on my 6x12 tandem(6’ sides) without being “Grossly “ overweight :whistle:, IIRC, I was around 8,000#on a pair of 3,500# axles, and a “Bit” heavy on the tongue;) definitely worth taking the trailer and saws for


    Doug :cheers:
     
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    Anyone else study the lake pictures to see if they could find fish? Lol

    Beautiful scenery, thanks for the pictures!
     
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    Awesome pics!

    I said that cause I noticed you were packing heat while cutting :D
     
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    Looks like Bear Country!
     
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    I didn’t notice that was showing in the picture.
    Although I do have a CCW, and prefer to not Advertise it, when I am carrying, Oregon does allow open carry, it’s just in the cities that you have to be careful about a weapon being visible, because each city can have its own laws regarding open carry. It can be very easy to cross the wrong line and get in trouble.

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    This is what I would have been carrying, this would have been more for “Two Legged Varmints” . Generally after the saws fire up, the four legged varmints tend to pretty much stay away

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    Yep eatoncat, this is Bear Country, this Yogi stopped by one of my Wife’s Friends backyard, for a snack. That didn’t end well for her bird feeder, but generally speaking the Blackies around here are pretty docile, and unless you do something Extremely STUPID, they aren’t the threat that they Could be

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    This is more the reason that I carry my 5.5” Ruger Redhawk, in .44 Magnum (sorry, the picture of that is hiding really well, I know y’all LOVE pictures). Unfortunately, the Cats are more of a concern. This one brought about its own demise, my Wife’s former Brother in Law, was Deer hunting in the Coast range, when this cat started stalking him. Doyle would rather have gotten a Deer, but the cat actually did come at Doyle in an aggressive enough manner that he decided, it had become a matter of personal safety. Doyle had a “Sportsman Pack”, which includes a Cougar tag, and it was during Cougar season, so it was a Legal taking, personal defense aside, but he would much rather have had the cat go on it’s way, and gotten a deer instead, but the cat didn’t give him that option

    In August of 2018, we had a female hiker, killed and partially Eaten by a Cougar about 7-8 miles from our house, and mountain bikers have reported at least half a dozen aggressive encounters with the cats on the Sandy Ridge Trail system about five miles from our home.

    It isn’t too often that we see Bears and Cougars in our neighborhood during the daytime, those would mostly be Bears, but both are seen more often than we like, at night on security cameras.

    I pretty much Trust our Yogi’s, the cats, not so much.

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    here’s a few pics of one of the primitive campsites, there were 3, just 40-50 yards from Otter Tail Lake. We have always wanted to go back, we didn’t even know about the Lake or campsites, before we found them woodcutting. The Wife being dependent on an oxygen concentrator since having Covid in 2021, makes remote camping, a bit more challenging now

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    keeping it firewood related, here’s some potential firewood we found when we took the jeep out in the woods on my birthday, back in August.

    I don’t know if it will still be there by the time the snow melts, and we get back with some saws and the trailer. I’m getting old, and that is really a bit bigger than I prefer anymore, and putting it in a better place to work, will definitely be more work than I prefer, but I did have to stop and walk around and assess it. Gotta admit the challenge did tempt me, and that was some Dayum good looking wood, suspended there, drying out and only touching the ground on parts that I wouldn’t be taking anyway.

    Yeah, I should leave it there, probably best for me, if someone else gets it before me, Best case, the Forest Circus, puts it on the ground before I get back to it, and they take some of the Fun, and I still get some Great wood


    Doug :cheers:
     
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    and bigfoot! o_O
     
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