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Drolet Myriad

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Grizzly Adam, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. oldspark

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    As I burn this stove more and more it really reminds me of the old stove, I think it will burn large splits and nice sized rounds much better then the Summit.
     
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    And it wasn't that they were smoldering either, it was very warm when I got up.
     
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    If I have blazing jets off my secondary combustion it was my fault. I burn mine so that I have lazy flames off the ends of the logs and very very small secondary action. I can get it to look like it's blazing by getting it good and hot with a ton of wood lit off but it's not the desirable way to burn for me. The only way mine looks like those two videos is if I got it way to hot early on in the load or if I put more splits on top of a load that was already in the middle of a burn. and even then I just shut it down further to get it back under control for a bit.
     
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    No matter how I burnt the Summit, let it get real hot and reduce the air or milk it up I ended up with a lot of secondary's at a fairly low temp (350 or so).
    I always felt that was contributing to my high flue temps but that's just guessing.
    The Drolet does not burn the same, much less secondary action.
     
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    Sounds like it is burning like it should!

    There had to have been something wrong with your stove. The flue temps you posted about scared me and it wasn't even at my house. I would be ticked if I my flue was as hot as your was getting with your Summit.
     
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    Hey OS great to hear you're happy with your new stove! Sounds like a great stove and they are reasonably priced too! Like that they employ baffles in their stoves too! Post some more pics when you have a chance..

    Ray
     
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    Came home from work after a little over 9 hours and found a warm bed of coal. Old lady tended fire in the morning, says she burned all the splits and threw on an apple round crotch piece just before we left. This piece would have been too big for the King as well. Loaded the Myriad with splits when I got home and happily burning now.
     
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    Were/are either of these stoves connected to outside air?

    I am wondering how the ratio of primary/secondary/tertiary air is affected when a stove is connected to an OAK and the stove has three different intakes for the air. For example, if the primary is on an OAK and the secondary and tertiary are on "house" air.

    It sounds like maybe the ratio of air supplies on your Summit were screwed up.
     
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    No OAK on either stove, the Drolet burns like the old Nashua did for the most part.
    Summit worked funky with two entirely different chimneys.
     
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    I am really impressed with the ease of operation. I like the north/south loading aspect. Like old spark said hidden gem. The stove radiates heat more than other stoves that's its strong point. The bypass feature is nice to have. Air wash on the front glass works really well never any build up even with sub par wood. Can you tell I am really impressed as Old Spark is.
     
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    I love the N/S loading. And pieces that were too big to get through the door of the King fit in the Myriad with ease. It's nice that it has a door that allows full access to the firebox.
     
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    @Huntindog1 @oldspark My stove brother and half brother-- now that you've has time to reflect, what are you final thoughts on heating with your stoves last year?
     
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    Grizzly, get yourself a real cook stove. So many out there. The way you are always trying things out, a cook stove will keep you occupied for hours on end. Have you had biscuits from a cook stove? Simmering stews, roasts etc. you honestly owe it to yourself.
     
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    Save-- I plan to get one when we move out to the country in a few years.
     
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    Love the North/South loading as I have never had that in a freestanding stove. The last 3 years I was loading the wood East/West.
    If anyone has doubts or worries I can tell you these are very heavy duty well made stoves.

    Now with all the talk about stove emissions these stoves are on the high side of the emissions limits. But rest assured they still burn smoke free once your stove temps are up to operating levels.

    The stove has more control than I was expecting. You can completely snuff the fire out if you close the primary air control all the way.

    The size of the stove is stated as a 3.1 and is a modest rating as from all the posts I have read on other stoves that are bigger , this stove will hold just as much wood as some bigger rated stoves. I have heard there are several ways to calculate the sizes of these stoves as in counting the area above the burn tubes or manifold.

    As far as the glass staying clean I give this stove a A+. On the Northern Tool website a question was answered by one of the NT Technical persons stating this stove does not have Window air wash to keep the glass clean. I think NT may have lost them selves some sales but almost all the user reviews on that site rate this stove very high. I have been amazed at how well the glass stays clean in these Drolet Myriad and Austral stoves. When I first got the stove, I was playing with just how low I could get the stove turned down and it snuffed the fire and the glass stayed clean even with the fire was smoldering for a while. Now once in a blue moon you will want to clean it but its still an very good air wash system for the window to stay clean.

    I think I have spoke about this before but this stove I think is a happy medium in design. Yes it tested with in the limits of the current EPA regulations but its on the high side. There are stoves that tested better. But to get better numbers usually requires that the firebox be more insulated. As in maintaining higher temps in the firebox allows the secondary burn to be more efficient in burning up the smoke gases for a cleaner burn. This stove from looking at it doesnt have firebrick all the way up the sides of the firebox. This allows this stove to be a heck of a heat radiator. You get alot of heat out of this stove. Another factor is that the it has a stainless steel baffle plate manifold rather than a ceramic insulative baffle board with burn tubes. I think the stainless steel baffle plate allows for more heat radiated out of the stove and into the room.

    If your heating from a basement and trying to get heat upstairs to rooms above the steel type stoves with better radiated type heat as in having higher peaks in the heating curve does a better job in my opinion. Stoves that are designed for a more slower temperature curve more comfortable heat in my opinion doesnt get the heat upstairs as well. These slower temp curve stoves are convective type stoves and ones with alot of stone mass that heat up more slowly.

    This stove is a good one for people who are used to the old fashioned steel type stoves and the type of heat they throw off.

    Lastly the bypass damper I just love. It allows for fast start ups and start ups with larger pieces of wood when you are short on kindling.
    It also makes for no smoke coming into the room. But granted when the out side air pressure is in one of those funks with my basement install even the bypass damper doesnt always help as its more of a matter to get the flue warmed up. As Stoves get air pulled thru them based on the draw of the flue. Stoves dont push smoke up the flue its the other way around. You do have to remember to open and close it and remember which way is open and which way is closed.
     
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    You are one person who won't regret buying a cook stove. While you can cook on a flat top wood stove, in no way is it comparable to a real cook stove. When you get it, I'm willing to bet you'll be cooking on it all year 'round. Then you can publish your own "Favorite cook stove recipes" cookbook. That ought to be something to look forward to.
     
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    I've cooked on Alderlea T-5 and it does a good job.. Don't know about this stove though..

    Ray
     
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    @Huntindog1 You should post your review in the new Ratings & Reviews forum.
     
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    Just noticed today my local Menard's had a Drolet Myraid on the floor for $899. I've never seen one before so I checked it out and was pretty impressed. Looked well built and no cheesy ceramic baffle. I think Menard's will sell a lot of these this year.
     
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    So far I love the stove but this winter will tell me more as I put it in late last winter, I will tell you it kicks out more heat with lower flue temps then my Summit (which I believe has a problem).