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Diesel truck discussion

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by TurboDiesel, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. TurboDiesel

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    Its not about air temperature.
    Its about air density.
    If you're bringing in warmer air, this makes the intercooler less efficient.
     
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    Wait!
    A 'Black Widow" is ...red?!? o_O
    :hair:


    :rofl: :lol:

    Dang! Thats a sweet looking rig, Woodsnwoods !!!
    I sure hope it works out for you!:handshake:
     
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    I wont bother with arguing... the numbers are proven. :handshake:

    Gale Banks is a numbers fanatic and he's proven the air density advantage time and time again.
    He calls the Filter-On-A-Stick, "jackassory." (His words not mine...I think they look cool, personally)
    And a good way to lose 100 horsepower in this example.


    gale banks under hood hot air - Google 搜尋
     
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    Almost too nice for wood duty! Boy that is NICE!
     
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    Doh... well I guess a fabricated housing is in my future! Thanks for the info!!
     
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    :yes:
     
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    Stock to big open filter on my 7.3 was lower EGT by 50-100 on cruising speeds. Wide open was pegged past 1500 so I don’t know where it would have landed. That was with a DP tuner 5 position. It didn’t care for the highest tune as it would run out of HPOP pressure around 3500 rpm.
     
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    I may agree that on the old trucks that a bigger (free'r flowing) filter may be better with modifications, but as a general rule, the filters in the newer trucks flow a lot more air...


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    I remember many years ago reading magazine ads that were proclaiming "up to" xxx horsepower by adding a filter system (Or exhaust). So many added a filter and said it gave them more power...when in all actuality it may have only gave them a couple/few hp or no extra power because other power adder mods were where the potential "up to" power was calculated.

    One of the popular mods for my '01 was drilling a big hole in the air box to let the turbo sound out... lol
     
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    I haven’t touched the 17 Ford or 19 Cummins air box. One has a more open exhaust and the other is none stock for now. The 19 Cummins is getting 22-23 mpg on the highway without the 5th wheel and 9-10 with it. The 17 gets 17-19 empty and 10-13 loaded with the help of the exhaust and tuner.
     
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    Kinda like back in the day when everybody and their brother made "high performance" exhaust for bikes/quads...MANY of them gave little to no power gains once they were actually tested on dyno...but people still seem to feel that louder is faster/more power :picard:
    I seen a really sweet Chevelle the other day that was obviously NOT stock...had full mufflers on it (quiet) but you could still tell this thing was freakin bad to the bone/big time horsies under the hood! :thumbs: Made me want to do the Tim Allen grunt...:rofl: :lol:
     
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    Ooh clock springs!

    Not fun. I had to do one on my mom's 99 grand Cherokee.
     
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    Umm yeah. Huge numbers
     
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    This theory applies to ported saws also :whistle:.
     
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    Ooooh! D&D pipes on sportbikes. Loud AF, but usually less power than the factory system.
     
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    It was Kerker 4 into 1 pipes here.
     
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    Those actually made a lot more power on the late 70's to mud 80's bikes. Had a 4-1 full kerker exhaust on my 78 kz1000. That thing was very fast for it's day. Later in the 90's, kerkers sucked.
     
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    Its a sound I'll never forget!
     
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    Those sounded good, at least mine did. Now those D&D pipes, even slip on/ bolt on muffler only sound just plain awful. Like there's no muffler at all.
     
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    940D5849-A64A-4B69-817B-9C37E923B6B2.jpeg CD936AA8-3BA1-4EDB-A956-F3E77D328EAE.jpeg 0C4D6C76-D473-45A7-98B7-F952D569B866.jpeg Much from the guilt of Turbodiesel, I added a heat shield. Not perfect, but I used an IR temp gun and was suprised by the results. Boy it DOES work...Also did a few holes for the zoodad mod. After watching the video, I figure colder is better and I’m in CA, not much rain or snow to worry about.
     
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    The help:handshake:


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    :rofl: :lol: