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Creosote burning logs?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by CogentAnon, Oct 2, 2022.

  1. Theashhole

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    Supposed to put a banana peel in the can and burn it!

    I don't know if they work, if people want to use em, go ahead, it's not my money, I won't use em cause of the cat in my insert and I don't want to get comfortable trusting those logs. I've had a chimney fire, not risking it again.

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  2. FatBoy85

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    There was some kind of thread that sounded like burning those logs made the problem worse but prevention is key AKA: burn dry wood . Clean pipe with a brush.
     
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    Ive heard of the creosote logs blocking flue pipes. Sometimes with a really dirty flue the logs will breakup up the creosote and large chunks fall and block the flue. I think the package for the logs says you have to do a complete chimney sweep cleaning. The logs just make cleaning easier.
     
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    I've heard of these creosote removal products being corrosive to metal in stove and chimney pipe too...
     
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    What he^ said.................it's a gimmick.

    Think about this for a second.....................so some smoke from a "magic log" is gonna remove soot from your chimney???? Do you really believe that???
     
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    Creosote with water is corrosive to steel. What I found so far is the logs have ammonium chloride and copper sulfate that when they burn make some nasty stuff to breath. The chemistry is magic to me but I know several of the hem can make acids when mixed with water and are good at reacting with other stuff, creosote, in the chimney.

    So the logs will release some corrosive gases and acids. Creosote and smoke do the same thing. I'd wager that years of poor wood burning resulting large quantities of corrosive creosote rust out pipes and when one finally uses a creosote log to "clean" it frees up the creosote enough to expose rust holes and putting while exposing fresh creosote to react with moisture to make acids.

    Similar to the "never flush your transmission" theory. The junk in the system is what is keeping a worn out system working. When the junk is removed you discover just how bad everything thing is.
     
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  7. FatBoy85

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    This is exactly why you don't find rust in a transmission, unless it's been cracked open in some way. That fluid is very effective at maintaining a completely heavy duty steel mechanism rust-free. Off point, that makes it a great cleaner/lubricant for your high carbon steel pew-pews.

    I'll place another anecdote here how some cleaners are effective. We obtained some crushed apples last weekend and I used two metal oil barrels. One was a burner so it had holes at the bottom of it. The larger one did not. We filled these with apples and then use them for feeding our pigs. The sealed one had become a soup at the bottom. The apples reacted with the steel and turned the apples black, we could smell the apples turning into the juice and put the remaining apples in the other barrel to drain out. What was left in the bottom of the barrel was a clean steel surface with the corrosion eaten away by the acid/vinegar. This is why we should keep in mind that even though it cleans it, it does it in a corrosive way.
     
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  8. In the Pines

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    I use a spray, ACS 1 gallon has lasted me I don't know 5 plus years. I don't use it all the time, Usually a few times thru the season.
    My wood is dry but I still think of it as peace of mind. Plus I get lazy and don't sweep every year, mainly because it really doesn't need it.
    I also like to knock on my stove pipe. One caked with creosote sounds different than a clean pipe.
    Most of the time I hear the creosote falling off it and if it sounds a little thicker, I'll treat a few times thru the week or as I feel.
    Usually after a few treatments it starts to sound more hollow and you don't hear as much creosote falling down.
    Maybe I'm imagining it all to make myself feel better? thats ok
     
  9. SD Steve

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    IF.....those things work, you shouldn't need them if you're burning dry wood.
     
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    That's what I keep telling myself that along with the rest of us. We shouldn't have problems if it's all dry. Now I'd ask a question that would be close to hijacking this post but apparently there are stoves that are manufactured and through that manufacturer they recommend their wood be more than 20% MC, and if that's the case, do they produce Creosote more than that of those who recommend 20% or lower? Thus any one using these Creosote removal methods might actually be useful but albeit be the product of against EVERYTHING we preach here being burning dry wood...
     
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    Peace of mind is worth whatever effort you care to put forth. :yes: