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City ash tree

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  1. clemsonfor

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    We were planning to go see my wifes parents in the city. Its about an hour and a half away. Or 75 miles. There was a bad storm about a week or so ago. The neighbor called the wifes mom and said one of her trees fell in their yard.
    Since we were planning tobgobup there I had her tale pics to see of I wanted it. From the pics and what was told to me on length I thought it was persimmon but was not positive. I said I would take it. So for the trips I towed the trailer and took some saws with me.

    Well when I got there it turned out to be twice as long as was told to me (a good thing) ans saw that out was an Ash tree. Made sense why the leaves didnt look quite right!!!

    Nice load for short work. Didnt have to carry it to far up the slight rise.
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    Phone is acting up will ad pics later!
     
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  3. clemsonfor

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    IMG_20150920_153834_746.jpg loaded up and ready to go
     
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    Nice job Clem! :yes:
     
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    Green ash, maybe? The cut ends look much yellower than the white ash that's common here.
     
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    Bark looks different too. However, the only Ash I cut has been long dead so I am not sure what living ash would look like when it is cut.
     
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    Yea I think we mostly have green here. Its not a very common tree in our woods.
     
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    Yea the bark does look strange on it to me. But when I saw it the first thing I thought was ash. The leaves all were hauled off. I will keep looking at it to make sure it was ash. If not ash I can't think of what else it would be?

    Edit: y'all have me reconsidering my first thought of persimmon!!! I looked up ash. I had forgot its bark pattern was similar to hickory...which this bark does not match. I looked at it on my way out and it sure looks like persimmon bark to me. Just be the biggest one I have ever seen if so!!! And the bad pic of the leaves dont seem right in my head they still matched persimmon better. And that oozing sap I saw on the outside reminds me of persimmon trees I have seen in woods. I have cut some ash and the bark and wood is different than this.

    I have pretty much convinced myself this is indeed a persimmon like my initial thought. Thanks for pointing that out!
     
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    Showed the bark to another forester at work. Just from the bark he said persimmion, which was what I first thought from pics. Neither one of us has seen none that big though!

    And your right. Looking at ash bark and the one I have cut and split in the ahead the wood is way whiter, not as sappy and bark is totally different. I just think the sheer size of it and some upper bark made me think that and I did not even pay attention to it till y'all pointed it out. More I even look at the top it looks like persimmon to me also.
     
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    I have quite a few Persimmon trees, their bark is very distinctive. Persimmons have small square blocks with deep furrows and often can be confused with Black Tupelo which also has similar square blocks. Kentucky Coffeetree also has deep furrows but the bark is longer, more rectangular in shape versus square 1" blocks. Hard to tell from your pictures, but all good wood non the less.
     
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    I had actually thought of kentucky coffee tree but it has a compound leaf also. The bad pic of the leaves I saw last week were more like persimmon single leaves.
     
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    If it's Persimmon that should be some great firewood! I never burned any yet myself, I wouldn't want to cut any of my live ones, they produce great food for the deer.

    I would guess if it is Persimmon, it would be heavy and hard stuff....? It would be nice to get a report back from you when you eventually burn it... If I recall, its up there with locust for BTU's. :yes:
     
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    I m positive its persimmon now after actually looking and putting all the clues together. At the time I was just cutting and loading.

    The BTU chart I saw had it equal to white oak. It was heavy but maybe only 2/3 -3/4 the weight of a comparable size oak would be.

    I have never seen one this diameter or height!! I believe it was male. There was no sign of fruit under it that I saw or where it hit the ground and there loaded right now if there female. This tree was up in the canopy in the tree line it was in. I bet total height was in the 60-70 ft range.
     
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    The other forester at the office is just a bit younger than I also an avid hunter and had also never seen one that size
     
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    Mine are not even close to that big around. Maybe the largest of them is 10 - 12" at the base.

    That one was huge! Nice score for sure... :) Did you get it all on the trailer?

    Still want to hear about how it burns for you.
     
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    Good load :thumbs:
     
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    Yep all bit like 3, 16" sections that were forked and were too big to burn whole, just left them in the trees. The rest is on that trailer. This won't be burned for 2-3 years but I bill report back. First I have ever had to split to burn of I remember. I have burned dogwood and that was great firewood!!

    And Yea this one was huge. That last round seen on the back top passenger side was the bottom round. I bet it was a good 18"s
     
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    20"+ persimmon trees are not uncommon here. Fresh cut persimmon is a deep yellow...not bright like mulberry.
     
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    This was deep yellow. And oozed a wet semi sticky /slimy sap
     
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    Glad that trip turned out well with the load of wood. Also happy you were able to ID it correctly.
     
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