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Chinese Stihl 070 knockoff

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Uncle Augie, Nov 18, 2014.

  1. Uncle Augie

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    I have run one tank trough the craftsmen saw, haven't done much else with it,have been busy with other tasks. The one tank so far seems good though, seems to have picked up a bit of torque, which is usually what you see with E85 in cars so it doesn't surprise me.
     
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    Have a Alaskian saw mill, have a 60cc 359 but I think a larger saw would allow me to cut bigger logs.
     
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    I don't know Hedge.......I'm betting they are cheaply done, though.
     
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    It would...
    But when milling, you make a lot of fines, and the saw is literally, bathed in saw dust.. The filters on that generation of saws is very crude. "even the german ones"...
    But...
    If ya just want to get one, do it...
    Put 10 or 20 tanks through it, and report back...
    Speaking of tanks... Look at those closely, and picture filling up in the middle of a long milling run... May not be ideal..
     
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    What kind of oil are you using?

    What kind of prep work are you doing when you are finished cutting?

    What mods did you do to the carb to get a proper tune?
     
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    I never woulda noticed that till it came time to fill up :rofl: :lol:
     
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    https://www.klotzlube.com/techsheet.asp?ID=2
    Part of the reason I haven't messed with it is that the oil is not goodstaying in suspension below freezing

    Drain the gas in the tank run a touch of pump gas till you hear it go fat, when tuned for e85 pump gas will run really rich.

    Cleaned out the carb and rebuilt it and assembled retuned for e85, no mods needed

    Was a quick afternoon to change over, could change back with a return of the carb . I am looking for another oil option currently, but as I said back burner.
     
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    Good thoughts, I'll have to be sure to add a better filter.

    Never thought about the tank, bit I'm modding the saw already...
     
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    Sounds like more hassle than what it is worth
     
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    This is the buddy I know.. ;)
     
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    I bet you could use one of those flexy neck funnels to fill it up while in the cut
     
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    It would not be good to use for anything really. It would be alright to have in a man cave, hang up in your shop, or to mess around with. I have a Chinese cylinder (Hyway) on saw. It is a higher quality Chinese cylinder but the saw does not have the power or compression I think it should. Back in the summer I worked on a 110cc Chinese atv(honda clone). It ran fine but it vibrated like crazy. Several nuts and bolts were loose on it. I read reviews on it everyone said it did not have the power a Honda did. I would not considered buying a low quality box store chainsaw that is superior to this 070 because they don't hold up. How do you think they can make a 105cc of any quality for what these sell for? A good bar and chain would be $150ish. I read on other forums about these Chinese 070's and people said they don't have any power, adjusting the carb does nothing, and one guy said all the box heads on his were messed up. I think the reason they ran Chinese saws at the GTG is because they like to pick a cheap saw to build that everyone can afford. Where are you going to buy one? The ones on alibaba you have to buy 100 or more? Even if they will sell you one it is probably going to be $300+. I think you would be better off finding a genuine older saw something like a 056 mag.
     
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    Yep......a royal pain in the hind end
     
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    Heck I'm going to quote you again.........I smell BS:smoke:
     
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    Plus there's the matter of finding parts for the clone saw when they're needed....At least with an older stihl husky & even most big old mac's & homie's most any part you need aren't that difficult to locate.Easy to service too.
     
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    Why? Have you ever converted any engine to run on E85? What exactly do you think I am lying about?
     
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    Technically, if it's a real clone, the OEM stuff should bolt right up to it. Of course, who knows how close all of the dimensions and tolerances really are but I know I can bolt Redmax parts right onto the 38/41/45/52 cc Chinese saws I have.
     
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    I have not, nor would I converted a engine to E85.

    You didn't have to modify the carb but goes rich with regular fuel? Hmmm

    That dairy farm with there 1066 IH and spreader leaving that smell. :smoke:
     
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    I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw that and thought hummmm... how in the word does E85 that takes 20-25% more fuel at the bare minimum to make the same power be rich on regular fuel?

    On a side note, once you get the E85 sorted out, advance the timing...that is where they will shine.
     
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    Alright, I'll make this as simple as possible since you already answered your question.
    If I have my carb tuned for E85 it is supplying 20-25% more E85 than what would be needed for regular pump gas. if I empty the tank splash a little pump gas with a 50:1 mix it will be supplying 20-25% more regular pump gas as soon as the E85 runs out of the lines. so I splash a little pump gas in an empty tank, start it again, listening for when the saw runs "fat" will tell me when the E85 is out of the lines and replaced with pump gas.



    Still think it is BS?
    Aware of the timing benefits that comes with 110+ octaine
     
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