Just an FYI, materials price increases generally happen on the first of the year and around March for others. My wallboard guy just advised me his materials will go up 6% this thurs. , just to show you an example. Plan ahead and be careful with timing
28'X56'X10'....You can build it yourself, the most difficult part was setting the trusses. Me, afraid of heights so it was left up to a friend of a friends roofing buddies (Couple cases of beer and a half gallon of Vodka).
Personally I prefer stick built. When you go to finish things inside and you have to modify the pole building to accomadate standard building material spacing, you might as well of stick built it. drywall, panelling, insulation, all multiples of 16. Not much in the pole barn will be and you will be making alot of changes to get things to work. Now if you are going to put it up and leave it for storage fine. If you want it finished inside stick build.
Well, I'm not too stubborn. Explain to me the difference between a pole barn vs modern construction. Cost differences? Difficulty level? Point me in the right direction for some DIY tutorials so I can decide if it is for me.
Conventional construction will cost more. Conventional construction You will need a continuous footing/conc or cmu wall down to frost around the entire structure with a sill plate and 2X4 @16 o/c and roof trusses @ 2'-0" o/c . Pole barn construction can vary, but usually posts at 8'-0" o/c with footings as suggested above and girts @ 2'-0" or 4'-0" o/c (depending on siding). Roof trusses can be at 4'-0" o/c with purlins at 2'-0" o/c. My opinion is pole barn is easier and cheaper, but as Ironpony stated it is better utilized for storage or a barn. Do a Google search and you will get all the info you need on both types of construction.
Have you seen garage journal? Lots of examples of various construction types. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7 The big downside of pole barns are the poles are in the ground. Eventually they will rot -- maybe in 20 years or 100 years... depends. If all you want is cheap dry storage nothing wrong with pole barns. But if you are going to pour a slab and finish the interior the cost savings compared to stick built go away fast.
It's that easy!! These guys seem to think pole barns are the devil...Drive around my neighborhood and there is one in every yard (probably because I live in the frugal/poor part of town).
Yep. They dug the holes, laid the footers, and tied them so they could set up over night. The next day, my barn was built in about 6 hrs. They are cheaper, and for good reason. I just lined the entire inside of mine with 2" x 12"s from the ground up. Followed by some foam board between the exterior tin and 2x12s. It's not finished, but it works for me.
24x24 is pretty small. I would stick build it on a monolithic slab...not sure if that would be good in your soil/climate though. Very common around here...my 32x32 is that way and hasn't moved a bit. Stick built is much easier to insulate and "finish" the inside if that's what your after. Three guys can set 24' trusses without any equipment with relative ease, set them on the walls upside down and use a pole to flip them right-side up. Just lay out all your lines on the walls ahead of time and you could have them all set and nailed in an hour. You could oversize the trusses and leave an overhang too. Buy 32' trusses for a 24' builiding and have an automatic 8' lean-to with very little extra work. You will need to install posts and a header to support the overhang unless you get trusses designed to cantilever. Unless you are going with a steep pitch, 24 wide isn't going to give you a lot of height for storage, so don't count on a ton of attic space. If you ever plan on heating it, throw some insulation down under the concrete (foam board). It doesn't cost much and makes a big difference.
Obviously there is more than one way to skin a cat...All depends on how deep your pockets are! I think we may be getting off track, We'll have him a $25,000 building soon.
I am still leaning heavily towards a pole barn style. But, I am open to learning about the costs and skills required to stick build.
Stick build is usually more expensive because labor is a lot higher, but if you do it yourself it isn't that big of a deal. Most of that comes from needing a traditional foundation (footers, drainage, etc) and the speed to frame it up. Materials will be higher too, but not enough to get real excited about, especially if you plan on finishing the inside (about even either way). I think that's probably going to answer your question about which way to go (stick vs pole) - how much insulation and what level of finish do you want on the inside? No insulation and no finish lends itself very heavily to pole...insulation and a paintable surface lends itself to stick.
Why would a pole barn eliminate a paintable surface? Plenty of board and batten options for pole barns.
I'm not sure how important a finished and insulated barn/garage is for me. I have seen plenty of old barns around here insulated, wired, and cement poured in long after the barn was built. What are the costs differences besides "not much more" when it comes to stick building? How much more difficult would it be to build it myself? How much more difficult/expensive is it to insulate a pole barn?
