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Best SHTF gun

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  1. Warner

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    The criteria I think of on this subject:

    a weapon the person is using has enough practice with to the point it almost isn’t thought about to pull up, acquire target and hit where they intended. With iron sights, scopes are great until you can’t be real careful about knocking them around.

    A weapon that one has an apple supply of ammunition or that isn’t going to be difficult to obtained when needed.

    a weapon the user knows how to break down clean and repair if needed with the supply’s to do so including spare parts.

    caliber or specific manufacturer would be whatever the carrier is comfortable with. Not all hammers are ment for all nails..


    I would want a semi pistol that can be concealed and hold at least 10+ rounds, a semi rifle that can easily be modified to full and holds as many rounds as possible and a 12 gauge that has a short barrel and holds as many rounds as possible. And maybe some others hidden that I would hopefully be able to get to.

    I guess that might not really answer the question of the OP but I was always taught one is none and you want as many rounds without having to reload as possible from a man that spent time in a foxhole. I’ll hopefully only have to take his word for it.
     
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  2. RCBS

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    Depends. Could be whichever is closest. Could be whichever I have the most ammo for. Could be whatever I can scavenge off of the dead. :whistle:
     
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  3. JimBear

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    Are you shooting sub-sonic ammo out of it ? Does that muffler work well ? How many rounds before you are cleaning it ?
     
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    Oh yes. I got big into rimfire a few years ago. I learned that standard velocity ammo (1050 or so fps) is more accurate in most 22 rifles. Standard velocity also is just barely subsonic.
    I shoot a lot of cci standards. Decent ammo American made and relatively affordable about 7cent a round when you buy 500
    When I'm hunting I use match grade ammo eley team at about 33cebt a round for maximum accuracy
    The can is new to me in the last month.
    On my bolt gun the cycling the action and the bullet striking the backstop is louder than the shot.
    On the 10/22 you get a bit more sound as the action cycles and in the dark you even see a little fireball come out the ejection port.
    22ammo is notoriously dirty, suppressing it makes it worse.
    I'm pretty religious about cleaning my guns so it's not a big deal to me.
    The can I bought I chose mainly for ease of cleaning
    Silencerco sparrow
     
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  5. Eckie

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    Anyone here a 'SME' on cans?
     
  6. Scotty Overkill

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    I'm in 100% agreement with this post
     
  7. JimBear

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    Subject matter expert ???

    This is FHC & there are all kinds of abbreviations/acronyms thrown around in here that I have never heard of or seen. Lol.
     
  8. Eckie

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    Yes. :yes:
     
  9. JimBear

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    Lots are reading of articles on performance/ratings has been my go to when researching,

    I don’t know anyone personally that owns one, which would help me an out with my decision process.
     
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    My wife calls me a SMF whenever I talk about most subjects. Does that count?
     
  11. Eckie

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    So ill go on and throw this question/issue out there in case someone can provide insight.....

    A 30 cal can....should be around .30 ish...
    .308, .311 etc.

    A 9 mm is typically .355 i believe.

    If you research "can you use a 30 cal can on a 9mm?" you will usually get the answer NO, or "you can do it once". On paper, I understand this...

    So my question/issue or whatever is this.... I know someone with a 30 cal can who has shot a .357 with it (on a Henry .357 rifle). There was no baffle strike or damage. (I bring this up as well since 9mm is very close to the .357 line.)

    I also know that my fil has mic'd a 30 cal can, and and the 30.cal can measured larger than the .357 bullet. The can was listed as a 30 cal /7.62 can.

    I'm wondering if this is normal? I would assume not, but I can't readily explain it, esp when so many say you can't do it, unless they are strictly going by what the "numbers on paper" would say, and not actual measurements....

    So currious if anyone out there has any answers or thoughts...
     
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  12. JimBear

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    My thoughts would be along the lines of allowing for deviations in bullet size & basic cya for the manufacturer/seller.

    Silence Centrals banish line lists hand guns on the big bore rifle mufflers but not the 30 cal can line up.

    Other manufacturers that they sell have mufflers rated for 17hmr - 308 - 9mm.

    I would think that probably best to go by manufacturers recommendations in a case like yours.
     
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  13. Eckie

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    Agree. Just didn't know if someone had a duh-huh explanation. I will read more on the box/paperwork for the 30 cal can to see what specifics/numbers it might state....
     
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    You are not alone in trying to figure out the abbreviations.
     
  15. Woodpusherpro

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    I'll try to make this short..

    Every manufacturer is different on the over bore size to the caliber.

    Most 30 caliber cans will be a no for 9mm. It may be fit, but tolerance stacking from the silencer to the muzzle threads to the centering of the bore in the rifle can cause a strike.

    There are silencers made for the 9mm/.357/.38 range in mind, and some are designed to work better on a pistol, or a rifle, or a pistol caliber Carbine most efficiently.

    The Silencerco Omega 36M is a heavy duty, larger, but modular, silencer that is probably better suited to rifles. It would be heavy but usable on a pistol.

    The YHM R9 is a much smaller silencer, but still wide, and is perfect on smg style pistol caliber carbines. It would probably block the iron sights on a pistol.

    The Rugged Obsidian 9 is light and perfect for a pistol, but may not hold up well to rifle cartridges.

    Here is a cool website that you can compare silencers sizes and weights, and filter them by make and model: CanContrast | Because Can Size Matters!
     
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  16. Eckie

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    The one that was used on the .357 rifle may have been a "non name brand" one...
    The one that we put the micrometer on is a Yankee hill. I'm quite surprised it was that much 'over .30 cal measurement'... I'd be interested in getting one for the Henry homesteader 9mm..
     
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    I dono but whith my age and eyes anymore I gots to go for a shotgun.
     
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