In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Bar and Chain Oil

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by NYCountry, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. mike bayerl

    mike bayerl

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2014
    Messages:
    3,895
    Likes Received:
    22,256
    Location:
    Central PA
    I have no experience using canola oil for b&c oil on my chainsaws. Then again, i have no experience using canola oil for motor oil in my cars or tractor or for using it as hydraulic oil in my tractor ot log splitter. Knock yourself out.
     
  2. saskwoodburner

    saskwoodburner

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2015
    Messages:
    2,541
    Likes Received:
    14,281
    Location:
    Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada
    First sentence answers the question nicely.
     
    Screwloose and brenndatomu like this.
  3. JB Sawman

    JB Sawman

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,317
    Likes Received:
    8,276
    Location:
    pennsylvania
    I have had several customers ruin bars trying vegetable oil to save the enviorment from all that bar oil hitting the ground ??? . That is what they told me then they asked about the bio bar oil and they have been buying that {stupid expensive} it is vegetable based you mix with water The older low rpm saws you could use old motor oil or just regular 30wt but the new high rpm saws really need the tacky oil to preserve the bars and the sproket tips everyone has their opinion but for the cost of regular bar oil is it worth not using it??
     
  4. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    21,901
    Likes Received:
    138,460
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Ah, yes milling Is a whole 'nother animal...
     
  5. The Wood Wolverine

    The Wood Wolverine

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2015
    Messages:
    16,892
    Likes Received:
    105,394
    Location:
    Gettysburg, PA
    Yes and no. Same principle. At wot, chainspeed is going to fling non-tackified oil off no matter if your cut is 10 minutes or one minute. Milling just better exploits the shortcomings of using an oil with no additive to keep it stuck to the chain. At least that’s my logical .02.
     
  6. RCBS

    RCBS

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2016
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    20,950
    Location:
    Over here
    As far as used engine oil goes...if it is a good lubricant...why wouldn't you just leave it in the engine instead of changing it out with new? :whistle:
     
  7. ironpony

    ironpony

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,463
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Location:
    Mid Ohio
    I could not bite my tongue any longer............
    I use the oil drained from the Cummins.
    Flame away.
     
  8. huskihl

    huskihl

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2016
    Messages:
    3,596
    Likes Received:
    20,349
    Location:
    Michigan
    The way I see it, it's your saw and you can do whatever you want to it.

    #'Murica
     
  9. mark.nowak

    mark.nowak

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    629
    Location:
    Sycamore, IL
    I just bought 6 gallons of this today at menards, on sale for $3.99 a gallon

    [​IMG]
     
  10. huskihl

    huskihl

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2016
    Messages:
    3,596
    Likes Received:
    20,349
    Location:
    Michigan
    It's a little bit thick for cutting in freezing temperatures. If that's your plan, I'd get a little bit of diesel fuel to thin it out. But that being said, it's the tackiest bar oil I've ever used even when it's 90° out
     
  11. The Wood Wolverine

    The Wood Wolverine

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2015
    Messages:
    16,892
    Likes Received:
    105,394
    Location:
    Gettysburg, PA
    Wonder if any logging companies save all their old motor oils for use in saws?
     
  12. chris

    chris

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,105
    Likes Received:
    10,834
    Location:
    SE WI
    If its so cold that the bar oil is too thick I thin with used motor oil- That I let drip through a coffee filter prior. If that ain'tt thin enough - I do not need to be out there.
     
  13. Rope

    Rope

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2017
    Messages:
    5,392
    Likes Received:
    31,078
    Location:
    Alaska
    For summer I use whatever local has cheaper. For winter I use Stihl Arctic. I only use bar and chain oil, and have not lost bar or chain.
     
  14. ironpony

    ironpony

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,463
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Location:
    Mid Ohio

    engine oil in general is changed WAY to often, if you were to have the oil lab tested it more than likely show fine. Too many people grew up with the 3000 mile rule, oils now are far superior.
    Everyone says it cheap change it, very big waste of resources and money. Oil does not go bad or lose lubricity it becomes contaminated with other wear metals from inside the engine, which also have been greatly reduced due to better materials and manufacturing processes.
    I know of many guys with diesels whose oil tests fine after 25,000 miles.

    Conclusion if it is good enough for my $13,000 Cummins it will be fine on a $100 bar and chain for the millisecond it is there
     
  15. Firewood Bandit

    Firewood Bandit

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    9,396
    Location:
    Western Wisconsin, North of Lacrosse
    My 288XP was purchased used. The previous owner used used motor oil in it, what a fricking mess. The saw was torn down and full rebuilt done along with some minor port work. Runs great now but then it ran OK when I got it too.
     
  16. JustWood

    JustWood Guest

    :cool:
     
  17. Screwloose

    Screwloose

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2017
    Messages:
    4,994
    Likes Received:
    28,850
    Location:
    SE Wisconsin
    Well.....here you go... I'm going to step out and say I have thinned my oil in the cold weather with a shot of the mixed gas for probably 30+ years. I have bought Echo bar oil for probably 10-15 years now. I've never had any issues.
     
  18. huskihl

    huskihl

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2016
    Messages:
    3,596
    Likes Received:
    20,349
    Location:
    Michigan
    Same. Whatever works
     
  19. Duane(Pa)

    Duane(Pa)

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    2,240
    Location:
    Centre Co.
    Some dude on youtube ran bar & chain oil in a mower or something for a few hours just for grins. It lost the tackiness but didn't blow up...
     
  20. JB Sawman

    JB Sawman

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,317
    Likes Received:
    8,276
    Location:
    pennsylvania
    I worked logging for 10 years we bought bar oil in drums all our used oil went in the waste oil heater in the shop thats the only company I am familiar with in answer to your question, Just Wood JB