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Ariens GT17 garden tractor repower

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Horkn, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. brenndatomu

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    Spirit of Two Socks has the spirit of FHC! :handshake:
     
  2. Horkn

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    I'll keep you updated. I've really appreciate the offer.
     
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    I'm sure you seen the other engine in Bangor PA too...geez, whats the deal with Magnum 18's in PA?!
     
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  4. Horkn

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    There were a few in Michigan as well. No need though, I got the one in northern Illinois. $200 it runs great. Doesn't smoke, and while the rest of the tractor is a bit rough, the motor is very clean.

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    I read somewhere on the internet that this engine has the same exact output shaft as my GT17. Let's hope so as that will make this swap really easy
     
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  5. Horkn

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    Well, I put the crapsman to work, to really test how well it runs.

    The battery is dead, as in doesn't take a charge well, but it jump starts. I've got it on the charger,v but I have nearly no confidence that it will take a charge as it could barely turn the engine over, literally right after I parked it after running it for 40 minutes or so.


    I loaded up the green honey locust that I snagged a few weeks ago and split. I moved it to my piles down in the lower part of the yard. 20190413_194539.jpg

    No issues. I did notice that the throttle cable isn't adjusted correctly and it doesn't go into full rpm unless I move the throttle at the carb. That's not a big deal as I'm sure I won't use that cable on the ariens.
     
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    So it appears that the m18 should have the same 1-1/8" shaft as the original kt17. Now it might be longer so it might need a cut down.

    I imagine that can be done without disassembling the motor, right? Sawzall or cutoff wheel?
     
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    Just fire up the motor and hold a hacksaw blade on the shaft. I have no idea if that would work...but sounds dangerous and interesting.
     
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    Or run it at 3600 rpm and lay a hacksaw on it :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Great minds.
     
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    Great minds n all...:thumbs:
     
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    Running it and using a cut off wheel works great. I have cut many a large 3450 rpm pump motor shafts that way. A sawzall will work fine also. Keep the hot chips off of the crank seal.
     
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    Lol. I was going to say to run the engine and cut it. As a joke.

    That said... :)



    Now my buddy that will be assisting me with this swap had a question regarding if the clutch bolt hole well need to be drilled and tapped? I'm not even certain if it had a bolt in the end? The ariens is by his place, I'll have him look.

    I'll look if there's a bolt in the end of this m18 output shaft.
     
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    If you have to shorten it and you need threads drill it deeper through the existing hole before you cut it off.
     
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    The bottom of the hole would already be tapered/centered, no?
     
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    Unless you cut it off.
     
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    true! :rofl: :lol:
     
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    That must be why you said to drill it further if needed before cutting. Smart feller.:yes:
     
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    Just don't switch the first letters around! :eek: ;)
     
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    I put the crapsman to work again last night. I mentioned it in the what's up bs'ing thread that I missed more firewood diem below to the stacks and picked up downed branches with it. I was amazed, but the battery took a charge overnight and started up without jump starting it. :)

    The magnum 18 runs good, even tight it probably needs a set of new plugs.