Anyone using some canned premix fuel?

Not really. Lots of years it got filled up at the gas station before ever being put in the water for the season. It had a 60 gallon tank that took most of the season to empty on a slow use year. Again, never an issue.

 

Heck my boat could go through 60 gallons on a good weekend we have very different experiences

 

I guess so. Life gets in the way some years and others is party time. I had one year near the end where we put more hours on it than all the others combined.

 

I've used the TruFuel 50:1 and 40:1, VP SEF 50:1, and RedMax 50:1 Maxfuel. Since using the canned fuel, I have not once had any fuel or carburetor problems with any of my power equipment. We go through a LOT of 50:1 fuel at work, but we mix our own with 90-octane e-free gas and synthetic oil, and a dash of Seafoam. Personally I purchase 5-gallon cans of the RedMax or VP mix at my saw dealer, it's been running about $90 including tax, and that gets me through a full year of running all my equipment at home. I don't have to buy firewood, so I'm OK with paying a premium for the canned mix. It's reliable and consistent and has a long shelf life. Plus, one carb rebuild costs more than a 5-gallon can of the premix so it's cheap insurance.

 

Jon_E we have similar experiences he’ll ethanol ate a carb in Z turn in less than 3 years

I use special gas before 6 month storage items, snow blowers, lawn mowers etc

 

I wonder if it's the stabilizer that I run that prevents any E related issues? I have (3) 5 gallon cans that I fill periodically fill throughout the year. (Plus a 2.5g for 2 stroke.) I add stabilizer every time I fill them regardless of whether I might be filling any of my equipment the next day or next spring. I do that because stabilizer is super cheap and then I never have to worry about when a load of fuel was purchased. Anyways, perhaps that's what's keeping the E at bay? I don't know... all I know is my own personal experience...

 

Yeah, there's some efree around, but it's always way out of the way, or like marinas, way overpriced and marinas are not really open in winter when I do most of my cutting.

 

I've tried it all with e10. When it was first introduced my dad had me put Seafoam, stabil, etc into everything that wasn't a car or truck. Did that for years. Snowblowers, lawn tractors, snowmobiles, tillers, chainsaws, weed Wackers, push mower, motorcycles, old Ford tractor, generators, pressure washer, even the mustangs and the old mercury cyclone because those cars sat all winter or more. Then I was in college, and I probably felt that partying was more important than adding fuel stabilizer

Several years of no issues on 5 snowmobiles, with nothing done to sleds besides running the carbs dry by shutting the fuel off, and one was an efi that you couldn't do that to, and no issues. In Fall, of simply full the tank with fresh fuel, and then that first tank when there was enough snow to run them, just take it easy. No 100mph redline lake runs and then fill the tank with fresh fuel again and they would be set for the season. My skidoo blew up not because of ethanol, but because the tune was too lean and I was enjoying his well it was running, until it didn't

Sleds are sometimes barely even used, as they are weather dependant, and they can need a pain to work on with multiple carbs.

At any rate, if I can run the carb empty on everything of any gas, e10 or even e free, I will because you are less likely to have issues if you can. That's the cheapest and easiest way to have less problems.

 

Yea draining the gas obviously is a good solution to any future carb probs but to me that is a pita. When I didn’t have E free available a little seafoam mixed in the gas always did the trick. No issues with saws sitting for 6-9 months.

 

Here is some facts about real non ethanol gasoline 125,000 btu a gallon ethanol 76,000 btu a gallon.
When you get 10 percent ethanol gas e-10 in a gallon of gas your not getting 125,000 btu a gallon.
So why does our Government like ethanol so much? And why does our Government subsidize it’s cost?
We get less mileage and less working heat meaning power from the gallon of e-10 ethanol diluted gas so what are we really getting?

 

firewoodbuckenman hey it’s a govt program to make fuel ( a key defensive resource) supply chain less vulnerable. How it working

 

From what i have found it costs more to turn the corn into a gallon ethanol then it cost to turn crude oil into a gallon of gasoline.
I am now again hearing about the rush to stop climate change the powers in control today want the ethanol increased from 10% to 25% in each gallon to me it's just another over reach of Government with their mandates.

Just look at what these and other over reaching mandates have cost the loggers of the world.

 

Ethanol burns differently in a motor, though. A gas motor can burn X amount of gas without destroying itself. The same motor can safely burn (1.5 - 3x) more ethanol (if the ignition timing and carburetor or injectors are set up to handle it) than gasoline because of its cooling properties (and other various reasons, I’m sure). So there is power in ethanol, but as mentioned it costs so much to make that it’s not really feasible. One good thing it does is grab onto water in the gas tank and mixes with it and burns it, rather than leave it in a puddle down on the bottom of the tank. Most of the reason we have ethanol in gas I’ve been told is to subsidy the farmers to help with excess corn.

 

Where you say that one good thing is ethanol grabs water and burns it, i don't think water no matter how it might be combined with ethanol will burn.

As far with the government subsidy helping corn farmers with excess corn they can sell all the corn they grow without needed any subsidy because the farmers have been making so much money sending their corn to the makers of ethanol many food processors are not getting enough corn and this is pushing up the prices of all food with corn being used in them.

 

I paid 3.89/gal today for 93efree
Leaf season, so I needed an extra gallon

 

My point was that it doesn’t leave it in the tank. Before ethanol, if you had water in your tank and ran it near empty, in the winter time that stuff would freeze and plug up your fuel filter, or damage the motor potentially if it got to it. You’re right though, I don’t believe it burns it, It just combines and gets blown out the exhaust probably as a vapor

 

Correct.

A number of years ago, when I had jet skis (I forgot to mention these on my list ), my buddy's Yamaha needed a little bit of work done to it. This was pre e10. You could see two distinct layers of liquid in the translucent fuel tank, especially when you put a flashlight to it. The layer at the bottom was water, and the fuel was at the top. The water layer was a couple of gallons.. We siphoned gas off and saved that, and the rest got dumped on the un lit brush pile.

 

Well we have covered a lot of ground in my post about if anyone used canned fuel, and we have received many good ideas for the long term storage between the use's of our saws.
Thanking all who took time to post.

 

Wait, I saw the carcass twitching.
I swear my saws sound better when I’m using 93 in them.

 

File under more bad news.