Anyone using some canned premix fuel?

If you guys want to search for E free, this site is crowd sourced.
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

Many locations on it are just canned fuel but lots of real pump locations too. Me, I'll just keep using E fuel with stabilizer. If I ever have an issue, I guess I'll reconsider...

 

And eat gaskets, seals, and orings.

 

Not necessarily. Pretty much all saws that have been made in the last 25 or so years are designed to run on e10, and most recommend 87 octane. So use 87 e10 all you want. That's all my saws see, aside from the coupler of cans of true fuel. As a matter of fact, I've been using e10 in every gas motor I've had for the last 25 years. Chainsaws, weed wackers, outboard motors, snowmobiles, single cylinders all the way up to v8's. No real issues.. I had to replace some internal parts on carbs that were 20-40 years old, but they were due at that point. These components were also not made to tolerate ethanol. Viton and EPDM have fixed these issues that rubber wasn't designed to deal with.
If you can find e free, great, do it.
One thing you can't do, is use e15, or as some stations call it unleaded 88. The ones around here call it unleaded 88, and it's actually e15, which all small engines and most automobiles can't even use, unless they are flex fuel rated. They try disguise the fact that it's e15 and most cars can't run it, even saying it's safe to use on newer cars. Kwik trip is pretty sneaky with this. I run it in my truck, but my truck is flex fuel capable.
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Please be aware, that these stations cannot guarantee that it is actually e free. Here's why. If the tanker pulls up with e10, they have to take it, regardless if the station says it sells e free. The only way to know what e rating it has would need to test it. IME, most people wouldn't be able to tell.

Also, e10 it's a maximum of 10% ethanol. Most times it's actually less than 10%, sometimes quite a bit less.

 

I love the smell of castor oil/ race gas. Amsoil sabre has that smell, and that's what I use for premix.

 

Truckie huh? Let me know when you need me and my 2000 gal tender. What are you running for a vent saw? My truckies run a 460R with a 20in bar. That Husqvarna pre mix is awesome!

 

NH border is really close to where I work. Only about 10 miles. I’ve often considered buying 20 gallons one day after work and bringing it home. In addition to saws I also have several old garden tractors which hate ethanol

 

Glad I'm not the only one! I always read these high octane / non ethanol threads on various forums thinking I'm all alone in the universe. LOL...

 

Ethanol gums up carbs and ruins gaskets. Ethanol free gas is the superior fuel and has more energy per gallon. So your equipment will run better. “Better for the environment” is debatable and really the only “positive” feature of Ethanol blended fuel. I think it sucks personally. Just like most “better for the environment” products. Such as oil free paint that peels and wears off in no time. The new crap asphalt they put on roads that deteriorates in only a few years, the quick growth lumber that’s soft as putty, the biodiesel heating oil that wreaks havoc on heating equipment, etc. All crap products. It’s better for the environment at the expense of serving it’s intended purpose and isn’t any cheaper than the older products which were vastly superior. At the end of the day the buyer/consumer is the one who suffers.

 

I guess it can but I've never experienced it once and have run it in everything since the day it started. ATV's, snowmobiles, boats, on road vehicles, OPE, motorcycles, etc. and never a single issue over the course of decades. The only time I ever saw an issue was when it first came out and my father's 1967 inboard boat with original carb and fuel lines had an issue. Like Horkn pointed out, modern engines were designed for e fuel and while I agree that it's a silly product and isn't saving the planet, it's also not destroying modern fuel systems as purported over and over on forums. If you're into older equipment then yes, I can see where you would be more wary though...

 

Modern vehicles are designed to use it, but those same vehicles would get better mileage and better power from E free.

 

Yes, that is certainly true. It reminds me of all the emissions equipment on my diesel truck. The EGR is an engine killer and the DPF burns additional fuel to clean the exhaust. They have reversed the roles of gas and diesel engines. It used to be that gassers were 100k motors and diesels would go 300k. Now fleets are going to gas and diesels are a liability when the miles get high... all in the name of saving the world...

 

I always use the canned premix a lot of my saws are old collectable homelites I use the 4 cycle fuel in the cans and mix synthetic oil to the different ratios for the older stuff and use the 50:1 for the newer stuff yes the fuel is expensive but so are my saws and being a saw shop I have seen waaaay to many saws ruined by bad fuel with ethanol , Mixing with ethanol free pump gas is a option if available in your area but the shelf life is still shorter than the canned fuel JB

 

Lots of farmers are dependent on the corn contracts. Ethanol is 8 billion of Iowa’s economy.

 

I agree. It’s not pushed because it’s better or superior. It’s for reasons not allowed to be discussed here. That’s all I’ll say

 

Yup, and drives up food costs when your burning it instead of eating it…

 

Wrong, ethanol makes far more hp than anything short of nitromethane and av gas.... bit does require much more of it.

 

Not from the studies I've read. Could you link something showing what you claim?

 

If it’s designed to run it, alcohol CAN produce more power. But it takes 3 times as much fuel to do it

 

Yeah, some get into it without enough real world experience.

In some instances ethanol has probably saved more engines than destroyed them. Take 2 stroke snowmobiles running in very cold temperatures. I have seen several times where the temps are so cold, that before ethanol was added, you'd get carburetors icing up. On a two stroke, that means you get less gas to the engine and usually melted pistons. Been there, done that. When it happened to me last with my skidoo, that Formula Plus with the mach1 engine was running the best it ever had. Well, until it blew a hole in a piston. Guess what they used to recommend putting in your tank when it got really cold? A bottle of ethanol. Lol.

Ever since they started getting e10 everywhere, I haven't seen or heard of carb icing issues. Then again, carbureted 2 stroke sleds are being replaced by more and more EFI and or 4 stroke sleds.