The last time I lent something out it was an extra 290 farm boss I had and I lent it to a very good friend, "whom I trusted" he in turn lent it to one of his son's. Well, it came back with "NO, NOTTA, ZILTCH" for compression. After I approached my friend about it, he confessed he lent it to his son. "But" he swore Phil didn't run it with plain gas, "Oh Phil wouldn't do that"..... He know's better.... So now I have a 290 sitting on the shelf with a cooked piston and cylinder. Nope, never again to no one, unless God himself ask's!
Unfortunately, most forms like that usually aren't worth the paper their written on once lawyers get involved.
I cant imagine having the balls to just lend something that I didnt even own. During the nor'easter this past March where we had all the damage and were without power for 3 days, one of my neighbors was trying to clear an oak that was blocking our access road with some ancient saw with a 12" bar that I couldn't identify. I grabbed my Husky and made quick work of it, and he pushed everything into the woods with his backhoe. He then gripped that he leant his good saw to a friend....so I ridiculed him about never lending out the good saw.
It is a little tough to ask somebody to sign this in front of a witness or have it notarized BEFORE you can borrow something. My release of liability is a well trained operator, ME. KaptJaq
Kapt, I am a sworn Notary for NJ. Stupidity will not hold up in court and a piece of paper basically means nothing. It's kind of like giving someone permission "written" to drive your car, if the wreck it or hurt someone then all the insurances get involved, bla, bla, bla... Even though they have a license and can drive a car, once you turn it over to them, it's on them... "basically"... Best to not even lend! I've notarized many car and trailer sales and all your doing is stating/reviewing what the receipt says and that it's someone's true signature. You "cannot" in any way give legal advise for anything. Forrest Gump said it best: (quote) Stupid is as stupid does!!!
Agreed on many points here. I dont burn firewood but I do need a small saw once on a while to take down some small trees or buck something that fell in a storm. I dont like borrowing something I might break. Bought a $200 Husqvarna 140 at Lowes and have used it maybe 8-10 times in 4 years. Sure I looked at the bigger saws but figure with the small saw, I wont get in over my head
That is all I expected, that way he cannot say that it isn't his signature. The content of the release is up to both consuls. Starts to get expensive and time consuming. KaptJaq
I'm the same way. I'd rather often help someone for free than loan certain things out. For example, I have had several people over the years ask to borrow my truck. Some wanted it because they were moving to a different apartment or house; another wanted to borrow it to get firewood. I know my truck is a beater, but it's the only one I've got. If it's going to be in an accident or break down it's going to be while I'm driving it. Plus, it's been my observation that very few people treat borrowed items with the same care they treat their own stuff. That was very sneaky of your acquaintance by the way.
Trailers seem to fall into this category also... My BIL, my dad and I bought a 6x10 landscape trailer together because none of us needed a trailer all the time. We split the bills and repairs no problems... But it got lent out once and came back with 2 broken lights, a missing spare tire, missing one tailgate pin and the electric plug cut off. Yes! Plug. Cut. Off. Guess the guy didn't have the right plug or adapter! And I never got the plug back, I had to buy one.
Sorry, my take on this involves why some insurance companies and lawyers are slimy bottom feeders and are a big problem for good people
Old vehicles (especially older beater trucks) have quirks that you know how to handle without even thinking. That's a huge reason not to lend one out unless you dont care if it runs later.
I guess I feel like most of you.. Most of the time I rent it.. A few good friends, the answer is always yes.. BUT they have helped me too many times too count. I don't have a truck, I can borrow 4 at anytime. Truck always goes back full of gas, oil changed if necessary and washed. Halloween last year, as many of you know, our electrical meter socket caught fire!! I was one of over 12,000 customers .without power. Generators were not available, no one had one in VT, NH or western NY. I have an 30 year old 4kw. Same friends brought over a 9kw. Friends on FHC were also extremely generous! I said all that to say this.. In times when the chit hits the fan!! Its a great feeling to have true friends. .
What is the difference between a lawyer and a catfish? One is a pallid, slimy, whiskered bottom feeder and the other is a fish!
That one I would pursue. I would give the friend a choice of either buying a new power head or I would have it repaired and he could pay the bill! If he complained, I would tell him he was learning the same lesson that I had just learned: Never loan tools to anyone, even those you trust!
As most can see, loaning or borrowing tools can be a very personal thing. Many of us over time have probably borrowed a few things and also lent a few things. The big thing to me is knowing who you are lending too or borrowing from. I would never make the statement that I would not loan anything to anyone. Sometimes it depends upon circumstances. Shoot, I've even offered to lend some things to a neighbor who was in need. And yes, I've been burned a couple of times but I will not let that determine what I do in the future. As for borrowing, I recall one time that I borrowed a chain saw and the guy was not even home. Actually I needed it for only one cut. When I took it back it was full of gas and oil and a sharp chain. He is the one I offered to let use our log splitter and yes, he did borrow it. I even took it to him. But this of course would not be the case for everyone. I can still be a bit choosy who I lend to.
Well said. I have a similar loaning/borrowing situation with my neighbor. Open door policy between us that includes when we are not home.
