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Amsoil at 80:1

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by the GOAT, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. bogydave

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    Yea
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    He wanted to make sure it failed
    Saw not intended to run on 100:1 either. Saber or Dominator
     
  2. Cut4fun

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    There is NWIH you could pay me to run anything at that ratio. Hard to even take you serious after spreading this BS. JMO :loco: :crazy:


    BINGO I dont care for 50:1 myself and have seen lack of oil failures on big bearing end and crank bearing (husky even had a notice back in the old school 365 372 to run 40:1). I warn folks running here to at least drop to 40:1. Let alone being a dingaling trying 100:1 All JMO :thumbs:
     
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    I have always mixed everything 40:1 even my out boards that OMC said to go to 50:1.

    I am now at 32:1 on all my outdoor power equiptment
     
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    Way to dig up an old thread. :thumbs:

    I have TRIED AMSOIL Sabre at 80:1 (never did 100:1). Which is quite bit more experience with it than you have by your own admission. When presented with compelling evidence that it was not adequate for bottom end protection in high-performance motors, I discontinued using it at 80:1 and switched to 40:1. I also took the step of contacting my customers (maybe a handful at the time) whom I knew were running the stuff, and advised them against using it at any ratio leaner than what the manufacturer of thier equipment recommends.

    Just to be clear:

    I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING ANY OIL MIXED AT 80:1 OR LESS. For best engine life, you should be mixing at 40:1 or more with a quality full-synthetic oil designed for air-cooled two stroke engines.

    Back up a line or two and read that again... Got it? Good.

    I was wrong, and when I realized my error, I did everything I could to rectify it. You ever been wrong Kevin?
     
  5. Cut4fun

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    Got it! Good. What you being smart and pushy? Dang I just dont like to see folks given BS info for profit. JMO.

    Least you have learned from your mistakes.

    Now amsoil semi synthetic is the bomb for racing. Hint hint. Now that should help you sell some being you sell amsoil right?

    Oh I have just been reading and learning and thought the last post said Dec 14 now I see it says 13.

    Oh you say you never ran 100:1 back in 2012 I remember reading (didnt know it was you at the time) saying you tried it 100:1.

     
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    Actually it's 85:1 as I was mixing 1.5 oz to 1 gallon of fuel. No matter what the package says. ;) I was anal then too, rinsing the little packet out and then adding the last 1/2 gallon to finish the mix.

    Pardon my ignorance but I'm not aware of AMSOIlL offering up a semi-Syn oil for two-cycles? Their race oil (Dominator) is full synthetic. Older product perhaps?

    And yes, it's no secret that I am a dealer for their product. I primarily buy for my own use and use in the shop but I do sell to others that are interested.
     
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    Semi syn should have been enough hint that told you it was bar oil. ;) Thats some goooood stuff.
     
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    Although I am quite guilty of buying grossly overpriced bar oil, I've never tried the AMSOIL variety for obvious reasons. ;). I'd be curious to know how much of that they sell annually. :sherlock:
     
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    I got this EFI 175 Mariner outboard...
    Was thinking about mixing in the tank for Insurance @ 100:1
    Don't trust oil injection.
    Thoughts?
     
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    Does bar oil make that much difference?

    I mean I'm not using "used motor oil" but do you see any difference from the cheapest stuff you buy at TSC to stihl oil, to off brand semi syn oil to amsoil bar oil?

    Wear I am sure but dont other factors wearing out your bars faster than friction?
     
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    I would. Many people do this for the older omc motors. They have a VRO pop delete kit for the older out boards to delete the oil injection and allow you to go premix.

    Like many say on the boating forums. On the old motors by the time you hear the alarm its too late. The new ones I guess cut out to save the motor but the old ones dont.
     
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    Why do some suggest double oiling during break in? I have never completely understood why..
     
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    Guess they think for friction? Wives tale thing? Who knows?

    Or it may be cause those computers will cut back oil to ratios of like 100-150:1 at idle!!!

    At one point once has out boards that they recommended 100:1, after damage they renigged back to 50:1. For all motors regardless of year.
     
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    I am talking racing. Why I used the amsoil bar oil in past. Not for work. Give me poulan tsc husky whatever for that.

    I had found out that some of the top hotsaws and stock appearing saws were running it and had switched all my racesaws over to it.
    The stuff seems to be so thin to pour during winter or summer and takes less energy from the saw to pump to run. Also seemed to really cling to the bar and chains.
    Thinking less friction too.
     
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    amsoil bar oil in all of these.



     
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    In this one too. Here was my ported 262 having issues. Can here the lean condition happening, Dang cylinder had come loose. Glad I caught it and no damage.

     
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    Welcome mung bean :)