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AAAAAAAAAAAA SCORED A WELDER SCREAMING DEAL AAAAAAAAAAA

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by Pallet Pete, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. WeldrDave

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    You guys gotta talk more welding bs, I need all the help I can get.o_O
     
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    This is a 115v welder? I have the Hobart 160 I think. Takes a 30 amp 115v source. I have only welded with flux core wire and no gas. Am I really sacrificing without gas? I don't seem to get real nice beads too often, but am far from a pro.
     
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    No its a 230V welder. Personally for what I do gas isn't really necessary. Gas really shines at keeping splatter down and making a shiny weld. Getting penetration is what matters and both flux and gas will do that.
     
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    Gas shielded is always better. Flux is often good enough for most things the average guy tinkering at home is working on.
     
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    I find flux to take a little more attention to find the right settings but it works just fine. As for gas having used both on the job and off if you can weld you don't really need gas. Flux is just fine and penetrates very well! Most of my welding is with flux because gas costs extra and I use it for both heavily abused items an not. I will say cleaning up the splatter can be annoying but with a quick flap disc wipe its gone.
     
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    Ask away Jack! I have some stuff I can lend out….. I got about 30++++…years of burning my eyes:(:cool:…. Be careful of you tube though, there is some good stuff as well as the bad!
     
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    Flux core was more of a homeowners wire vs. production. You have to stay out of any kind of breeze with fluxcore. Some people even mixed it with a co2 gas, in the "long run" flux core is more expensive, the nice thing is you don't need a gas bottle to drag around.
    Keep your flux wire in a warm and dry atmosphere, "in the house" if you leave it in the garage or shop "like most" It starts welding like crap because of moisture residue on the wire and in the flux. There is O2 in the moisture and that's bad juju for welding, hence splatter, crappy beads, snotters on the tip, etc……
     
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    Please explain you got me there? Seriously I'll switch back to shielding gas if it's cheaper! ( I'm all about cheaper ) I pay about $12.50 a 2lb spool of flux solid core is about $1 more. The tank is $150 on time fee with regulator is $220 and the refill is $34. Does the solid core last longer? You perked my interest Dave. It isn't something I ever really gave thought to at work as I don't pay for it and the cost of shielding gas just kinda turned me off at home.
     
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    Yup tomorrow I get back to the lift. :D Today I needed some time with Mother Nature!
     
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    Now that your feet are back on the ground. LOL :)
     
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    So, Pete... When you coming over to uncrate the welder you sent me?
     
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    If you figure in the extra cost of flux core over solid, plus less ft on a spool of flux core, even with the gas cost, I think it would work out just about even.

    Solid core runs about $35 a spool and flux core is about $70. (10lb spools)

     
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    Um well if I ever drive semi again that could work. :p
     
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    No tips, not that I'm sure what they are. Can you give me a product link so I know what to look for?
     
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    That's ok Pete, but I really hope you don't have the same thing I have. I wouldn't wish it upon an enemy, let alone a friend. Feel better.
     
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    Sorry Pete I didn't get back sooner, got side tracked:emb:….. Basicly as Nate put it, the spools for flux core are more expensive. Now, if you already own a bottle and regulater, the solid wire is cheaper and less finiky to weld with. If not, and your only doing small projects, "as yours" the flux core is fine. The thing I find with flux core is, make sure your stuff is "clean". With gas and solid wire, not to much of a problem….. The difference like welding 7018 and 6010 or 6011. When I was building beams and welding beam clips for the Atlantic City casinos, "many years back" the difference "in the long run" was huge $$$ for flux core. I don't think your going to be putting down hundreds of feet of weld a day, so stick with your flux core. It's just a bigger $$ bite when you need another spool:)
     
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