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  1. boettg33

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    Growing up I recall getting the hand or the belt from my dad and my uncle. I also recall getting it from my principal in elementary. With my kids, they knew they would get the hand. I never used the belt. Not using the belt had to do with my personal memories of it along with current laws around not leaving a mark. The school systems around here watch for it like a hawk, and the kids are tuned in. My kids never told me that will report me to DCYF, but I've heard others have said it to their parents.

    We've become too politically correct. Yes we want to protect the weak. I get that. The problem is that no one ever seems to find out until it's too late about the sexually or physically abused children. As a result, the politicians and the courts put down mandates to law enforcement and our schools to be on the lookout for anything. Which removes a tool from good parents that know how to use it properly. Sure you can and most will do it in private, but you always run that risk in the more liberal states of getting caught. One word from the child that daddy hit me, and the school will start a chit storm like nobodies business.

    These matters are not dealt with quietly in school. DCYF will involve the police, there will be a hearing, possible loss of your job, etc.

    Oh times have changed, and not all for the good.
     
  2. rottiman

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    Therein lies the problem in many cases........................Sadly, a growing percentage of people don't qualify to be "good parents". The basic parenting skill of teaching your kids of respect for parents, elders and other people's property have long ago been flung out the window in the "MAJORITY" of households.
     
  3. Canadian border VT

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    LodgedTree parents were also foster parents, we, got about same number of siblings. A lot of good foster parents left system in 80,s when state said teenagers had a right to drive and foster parents who at that point did not receive much for funding. Where told state would give them licenses. What about car insurance rules etc. I remember my dad pulling out his license it stated on it it was a privilege. You earn privileges. Now state throw more money at it. Good parents rarely do that amount of work for money. Kids learn to play system, its sad. Many people myself included thought about it BUT unfounded abuse charges are only legal situation where you have to prove innocent as you are assumed guilty. Scary.
     
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    Wrong. Don't care where I lived, that would not hold. They can kiss my .....
     
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    Yard sticks are a joke
    Below is what the principle used , also the PE teacher that roamed the halls , only the paddles were 2 foot long oak
    When you were told take your wallet out and put your hands on the desk or if you were told to bend over and grab your knees , you knew you were in for some hurt :startled:
    PE teacher hit me so hard it knocked me right on the floor.

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    "Spare the rod, spoil the child."

    I read some crazy stuff and it makes me cringe. If some of you knew how life was when I grew up you'd wonder how I could be here. Yet, I did survive. And if I survived the stuff I did, a slap on the bottom is nothing to write home to mama about for sure. But as I stated, there is a difference between a beating and a spanking. Believe me, I know.

    Yet, I remember we had our granddaughter for quite some time when she was young. She was almost taken from her parents because of a broken arm. They tried to blame her mother but never got it to stick. But then her mother was paranoid about even slapping the girl for fear she would lose her. That brought some very bad habits to the child. However, we were not afraid of anyone taking her from us or her parents and taught her the right way and she turned out much better for it. Yet, I could still see a difference in her when she would get back with her mother. I would remind her and she would then straighten out again. Perhaps not after I left but when I was around she was a very nice girl.

    Do you read or believe the Bible? I do. And the Bible does teach discipline. I'll use that as a great guideline.
     
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    Fortunately I was never whipped in school. They knew that if they did that, I would get it a lot worse one when I got home. That saved me a few times. lol But, sometimes word still got back to my father if I was disciplined and that was not a fun time for sure.
     
  8. chris

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    Catch it from ma with the admonishment just wait till your father gets home- hard to sit down after those two attitude adjustment sessions. My offspring grew up in the eighties through the early 2000's. Lot of changes in that time period. They caught it if it was required. Middle son was a real pistol ( guess he inherited more of my genes than his mothers) at any rate 8 years in the army made a major transformation in him.
     
  9. Marshel54

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    Where to start.
    So true. Our school system is like this for better or worst. My daughter got caught in a similar situation.
    My grandson was perhaps 6 at the time and we were having supper at her house. After supper, dad and grandson started wrestling on the floor. Dad rolled one-way and grandson rolled towards him. Dad's elbow connected just below the eye. Next day the kid went to school with a shiner. The teacher asked how that happened. Grandson said, "Dad hit me." End of questioning and the teacher went orgasmic. "Child abuse." My daughter called in a nervous wreck. They sent the investigator out. No child abuse.
    What would have been a wrong with asking "Why did dad hit you.?"

    "Spare the rod, spoil the child."
    A lot of truth in the Bible.
    I remember visiting my out of state sister back in the '80s. Both parents were highly educated and in the education field. You don't smack kids, but give them time out. I remember my nephew getting in trouble. Mom grabbed him and drug him to the bathroom for TIME OUT. The kid was kicking mom all the way and then proceeded to try and destroy the door. It was all I could do to hold back not to insert a little discipline in his backside.
    Fast forward 3 years when we visited next. My sister had divorced her husband and got remarried to a disciplinarian. The difference was night and day in the kid. My nephew is now 33 and still speak more highly of stepdad than his real dad.

    One of my daughters is quite headstrong. I know, takes after the old man. When she was 3, we were at the store picking up a birthday cake for mom. She had decided that she want to carry the sheet cake. She was throwing a tantrum from the checkout on. When we got to the middle of the parking lot, she sat down and started kicking the ground. Typical 3 year old tantrum. I sat the cake down and pointed to her sternly sayin, "Get up." After several times she kept throwing her tantrum. I picked her up by the arm and proceeded to insert the instruction in the other end (a couple of whacks across the backside) and set her back down. I then repeated, "Get up." She got up and started following along. I looked up and saw a bystander shaking their head. I turned and said, "It improved her hearing didn't it."
    That was in the late '70s. Today the police would be pulling in lights and sirens.
     
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    My son use to watch him all the time. Had to buy him one of his painting sets.
    Bob Ross. Maybe Bob is wrong.
     
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    I remember when my son was about 11 or 12 i told him he was pushing it. And was inches away from getting spanked. He said if you spank me I’ll call the cops. I handed him the phone and told him to call 911 it was faster. And proceded to give him his spanking.
    Not a beating but a spanking. There is a huge difference.
     
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    The guy who was our middle school p.e. teacher was a firm disciplinerian. He was also a great guy who was one of the first to respond to any type of emergency. He loaded sand bags all night if there was a flood, volunteered countless hours of his time to youth baseball, wrestling and basketball. He helped alot of kids learn what hard work and respect are.