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450 vs 450 Rancher chain and bar.

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  1. schlot

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    So you don't think the chain will work with the new bar or sprocket?
     
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    That chain on the bottom is a larger pitch than the one on top. It can be used but as others have said you will need to change the drive sprocket to match the new chain and get a bar that is made for that chain. Your bar says it is a .050, .325 but my guess is the chain is a 3/8(.375), .050. The .050 aspect, the gauge, would work just fine but the nose sprocket on the bar has teeth made for a certain pitch, in your case it is made for .325 pitch according to the markings on the bar. If you got the chain and bar at the same place from a local dealer just return the wrong chain for a correct chain to match the bar, a .325, .050 chain. If you like the aggressive full chisel chain you can still have that in .325 chain.
     
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    No
     
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    I know I generally don't like Husky chain - the L shaped rakers are trouble. If you want more aggressive cutting - take back the Husky bar and chain. Order Oregon Pro Lite 200SLGK095 bar and 20LPX078G (yellow) or 20BPX078G (green) chain. These are regular kerf but 450 should pull it. Sprocket is the same.
     
  5. schlot

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    Like this?

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    Your in good shape. When it gets to looking like the one I posted you'll need to replace. Just go exchange the chain.
     
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  7. OldJack

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    Good picture. That sprocket's hardy worn at all.
     
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  8. schlot

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    Ok
    And the bar? If I get the right chain for the bar, will I need to replace the sprocket?
     
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    Nice picture. That drive sprocket looks brand new. If you decide to change over to a 3/8 pitch you will need to remove the clutch assembly (big round thing) to be able to remove that sprocket and replace it with a 3/8 drive sprocket. In your circumstance I would just return that 3/8 chain for a nice .325 chain in whatever tooth shape you prefer. The new bar already says it is made for a .325, .050, 80DL chain. Lots of folks make .325 chain and brand matching is not required. That is why they give you all of the critical dimensions right on the bar.
     
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  10. schlot

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    Order that from Baileys or the like?
     
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    Like said I think somehow you got a chain in the wrong box , new bar is fine , take the chain back if ya can , or get the right one n sell that one
     
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  12. schlot

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    Cool. Thanks.
     
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    Did you run that chain on your old bar first?
     
  14. schlot

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    No, just hand rotated on the new bar.
     
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    No .325 has the same driver spacing whether it's full kerf or narrow.
     
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    FOR SALE:

    One a kind, super rare, Husky 450 full chisel 3/8" chain. Comes with a special "not" fitting option for your 450 bar.

    Hurry, don't miss this chance of a lifetime! :)
     
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    If you can't take chain back...Get Oregon 95VPX080G - it's basically what you were supposed to have in the blue husky box. And generally, it's better to order bars and chains by specs, rather than saw model #. Many 50cc class saws can be .325 or 3/8; reg kerf or NK.
    Bars - mount, pitch, gauge, DL, RK or NK
    Chains - pitch, gauge, DL, RK or NK
     
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    So, this is a doozy! I'm not great with Oregon/Husqy chain and bars, but, I do have the Oregon manual on line here OREGON Maintenance and Safety Manual
    As far as I can tell, your bars should be equivalent, both are .325 pitch, .050 guage, 80 DL. BOTH are narrow kerf, a.k.a "Micro-Lite." That's the round symbol right below the "1.3 mm" on the bar.
    Now, your new chain is really an odd-ball. First of all, the packaging and the chain do NOT match. The Oregon terminology on the package is 95VP. The 95 signifies that this is .325 pitch and .050 gauge, and VP should be narrow kerf, which is what you wanted. HOWEVER, you can see that the drive links have the number "80" on them. That should be 95, look at page 10-11 in the on-line manual for the codes and labeling, Interestingly, Oregon doesn't even list 80 for any of their current chain sizes. And likewise, if you look at the Vanguard chain with the bent over raker like you were sold, it only comes in 3/8 pitch currently.
    LONG STORY SHORT: Take the chain back, it is demonstrably mislabeled and it doesn't fit your saw. Then get yourself some real 95VPX 80DL chain. Make sure it has the 95 on the driver. Don't worry about "aggressiveness" of your chain. 99% of how fast a chain cuts is really just keeping it sharp.
     
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