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Chimney and Stove selection, Englander Madison?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by CoreyB, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. Kimberly

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    Like I said for my Madison 02 model; the heat shields keep the wall cool behind the stove so you don't need any wall protector. The hottest part of the wall for me is the area where the stove pipe radiates on. I wish I had a infra therm to take readings. I tested by using my hand on the wall to see how hot the wall was getting. I followed the installation instructions to the letter for clearances although I did go minimal clearances for the distance from the wall. I only have one wall to worry about, my stove is placed in the centre of a wall with a window on each side.

    The other concern is the floor protection if you are on a floor that is combustible. The pavers will work but they need to be placed on a noncombustible material if they will just be butted together. Even a small ember can smoulder for a long time.
     
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    Another thing, the Madison comes with a connector for outside air but the kit is not included. I have yet to connect outside air to my stove. I mention this because you have to either go through the wall or through the floor for the OAK. Didn't know if that will be an issue. If you have a super tight house, then you might want to look at connecting to outside air. I don't know how tight my house is; I did keep a window beside the stove cracked open since I am consuming inside air to burn. I also have a CO detector.
     
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    I will hook up the cold air intake. I am thinking about adding a dampener to the intake to be able to restrict the air if necessary. I don't know if it would work or not but it would give me the sense that u could control it if necessary. Will also add a dampener to the chimney.
     
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    So have you decided on the chimney for the stove? What will be your height? I contacted ESW and they told me that the height of the chimney is measured from the top of the stove; that was not clear in my manual. Unless you think you are going to have an overdraft situation with your chimney, a damper will not be needed. The problems I am seeing with my chimney; if you have read some of my posts, is due to some tall trees that are too close to the house. I was planning on hiring some help dropping them but then the transmission went out on my car so they will have to stay put for now. I don't have the skill to drop such large poplars that close to the house; plus, there is no room to drop them into the gardens and they have a good lean.

    Why are you thinking about putting a damper in the chimney?
     
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    As long as you stay with the same manufacturer it will be fine.
     
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    Easier to do it and not need it than have to go back and do it later. I wish I had put one in mine...would get used 5-6 times a year I would guess. Modern stoves don't need them normally though.
     
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    I would agree with this as well. I wish I had added one as an "emergency brake" so to speak, for those times the wind kicks up at -40 C, or when you forget the air open a bit long.
     
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    I really need one too, for both the epa and the pre epa in there now, tall chimney and high winds. There is no room between the top of the stove the top of the fireplace where the liner is.
     
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    A second use for a chimney dampener is a stop for a chimney sweep. Thinking if in a hurry it would be easier as long as I can remove the ceramic baffle without removing the secondary burn tube. To sweep back into the stove. Idk maybe I am over thinking it. But as an emergency stop is the main goal. My wife loves big fire's to a point to be concerned! The only wood we burn is oak, hickory, elm, locust, and hedge. In that order. So a hot fire is inevitable and learning this new kind of stove I want everything I can in place to be able to control any learning mis judgement. Especially if I am at work it will be easy for my wife or oldest girls to shut it down.
     
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    In my case it is a matter of getting a proper draft; even with the additional section of chimney I added last year. Therefore, I don't want any kind of restriction in the draft. I think the larger trees beside the house is the main reason for the lower draft of my chimney. When I start cold, I build a small fire that cannot get away from me and let it burn hot to get the chimney warm; watching the pipe thermometer as I let the fire burn. I guess for those with tall chimneys with strong drafts that a damper is a smart thing to include.
     
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    In my Madison, the baffle is in two sections split down the middle of the stove. It is possible to lift one section of baffle up and slide it on top of the other. However, I don't know how much ease that would give for cleaning. I have an elbow on the stove pipe since I go out through the wall. I just plan on removing the pipe from the stove for cleaning. I am going to have to buy a chimney cleaning kit.
     
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    Well my stove arrived today. Man that thing is heavy to load and unload by your self. I see some aches and pains in my future.
     
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    Cool :cool:
    But I don't see any :ithappened:
    [​IMG] :popcorn:
     
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    Yeah, must not have happened, eh? :whistle::rofl: :lol:
    We'd love to see some pics, Corey. :dex:
     
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    Wow, that was quick! :yes::yes:
     
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    Bad internet right now. It will happen later. Lol
     

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    Oh geez, looks like your glass is gonna fall right out!:rofl: :lol: Just kidding of course.
     
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    Man these things are heavy. Fyi others purchased, loaded and unloaded. Got a total of 24 for a buck a piece
     

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    They do look heavy.
    A buck a piece, that's a great deal :thumbs:
     
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