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Heating my home

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by JoshC, Feb 1, 2016.

  1. JoshC

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    Oh yeah, I gotcha. I was thinking you said something else. With a small fire, stove top is 434 degrees.

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    That stove can handle sustained STT of 600. To get the most out of it you might need to ruin it a bit harder. Also, are you ruining the fans on the stove?
     
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    When I get it going good, it does run about 600. yes, fan is always on.
     
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    You might get the downstairs warmer by leaving the fans off or REALLY low and try to take advantage of the radiant heat instead of convective heat.
     
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    I have actually thought about that myselft. Glad to see some of my thoughts aren't wacky weird! haha
     
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    But your taking advice from an avatar of a human muffin hybrid.
     
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    true......
     
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    The Napoleon 1900 is a true beast of a heater. I have one and it heats the house quite well....

    We have the Napoleon NZ3000 ZC fireplace in my living room, with 12' cathedral ceilings. We have two 58" ceiling fans in that great room, and we keep them on low in reverse pretty much all winter long. Never have a problem keeping that room comfortable.
     
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    So, house is warming up very nicely. Since I turned the stove fan off, as mentioned earlier, stove top temp went to 508 keeping the same size fire as the picture I posted earlier. And that was with no whole wood left, just coals. I just threw a piece of red oak in and I'll check the temp again once it's going.
     
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    Just as a little addition to the explanation on movement of air. Please bear with me and I hope this makes sense. We learned way back in our early school days that warm air rises and cool air goes in the opposite direction. Also, it makes sense that as some air moves in one direction, some other air has to replace it. Then when we realize that the coolest air will be at the floor and the walls, it makes sense that the warm air will be rising in the middle of the room, or very close to center and then it will go toward the walls because that air is moving down. A natural convection forms. So, if we "pull" the air up in the winter (in the middle of the room) then it will go with the natural flow. Sorry, a bit long winded but I'm not sure I can explain it better.

    On the ceiling fans, I too would use both especially after seeing the shape of the room and ceiling. But I'd definitely try it both ways before making up my mind totally on that point.

    In addition, for sure those floors need some protection and insulating them can go a long ways toward keeping the rest of the house warmer.

    Good luck.


    Edit: I too would try without using the stove fan.
     
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    Having the ceiling fan in reverse also means that it won't be blowing air down upon you if you are in the center of the room. Unless the air being blown across you is downright hot you will perceive it as being cool. Its the heated air that you want to feel leaving the stove and the reversed air flow should help pull it that way.
     
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    Very true. My kids just got in from swin lessons and they thought it was freezing in the house, although it was actually 75 deg in that room.
     
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    I recently did some checking of temps in the house. Single level, 8' ceilings, 1200 sq feet. Small stove, low wood consumption.

    With the ceiling fan reversed temp in the main room under the fan & 10 feet from the stove 75 degs. At the wall in the kitchen 22 feet away from the stove temp 80. Bedrooms walls 40 feet away 73 degs.

    Ceiling fan blowing down, it's 80 degs under fan and much lower temps everywhere else. Especially in the bed rooms, where it was upper 60s'.
     
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    Oh and our floors aren't insulated. Closed in crawl-space, 2-4 feet off the ground.
     
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    I have tall ceilings too at 21 ft tall.. i cut down on volume by walling off my loft and turning it to a bedroom. But i judt put in a new much larger ceiling fan that is 68 or 70" span vs the old 52". Made a monster air movement difference. I keep it on low pulling air up toward peak of ceiling. Also that fan looks way up there.. a longer down rod may aid in air movement as well. I know the box for ours gave a fine tuning graph which shows downrod length vs ceiling height
     
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    We had to buy another rod when we put those in. In guessing they are about 11-12' off the ground. I've keep a fire going all day, been over cast and about 40 during the day. Fans pulling air up on medium and stove fan on and it's 75 in here now. Upstairs isn't bad at all.
     
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    I swear my ceiling fans work much better on lowest speed possibly just barely moving that air seems better but everuones situation is diff
     
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    It does vary. I'm looking forward to a good cold day so I can really test it out, but so far mine seem to work better on medium as compared to low.
     
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    What size is it? Like i said since we stepped up to a much larger fan the span really helped. But hell the old small one stayed on low all winter too
     
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