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Hearth stone brand stoves?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Keweenaw, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. fox9988

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    Others will reply with more masonry chimney experience but here's my $.02.
    Interior chimney is a positive. It will stay warmer, which maintains draft and keeps the flue gasses from condensing and forming creosote. 18 ft tall is a touch short but not bad. 7x7 is a little large-49 sq inches. WS recommends a 6 inch diameter chimney which is 28.3 sq inches. Too large a chimney will reduce draft but you are allowed to have up to twice the recommended area (cross section).
    My guess: It will work, but would work better with a liner, insulated preferably.
     
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    my flue is outside and is not at the peak of the house, so cleaning is from a ladder hooked over the top of the chimney
    I wouldn't want to lean on the chimney for fear of pushing it over. its old concrete flue block and not in the best of shape
     
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  3. Keweenaw

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    I'm all for having a nice insulated liner, I just want to be sure I can clean it. Lots of folks up here have permanently attached ladders to steep roof surfaces. I think something like that would be the only way for me to clean it from the top down. I know that when its time for me to get into a nice stove, I want the whole set up to be up to par with the stove.
     
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    here's a construction pic from over the summer
    I was putting my services under ground so i could finish the roof
    you can see the flue is out in the middle of nowhere. wish it was at the peak for better support
     

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  5. Backwoods Savage

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    Just a little hint HarvestMan if you aren't aware of it. We never let the stove go out to empty ashes. We simply burn most of the coals down then shove them to one side while taking out ashes, then move them to the other side to take out the remainer of the ashes (of course leaving an inch or 2 of ash still in the stove). That way the house doesn't cool off much at all. During mid winter, then we may not burn the coals down as far but still remove some of the ashes as needed. No, we don't have a furnace or backup heat but even if we did, we'd still do the ashes the same way.
     
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    Have any pics of your install or chimney, keeweenaw?
     
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  7. Keweenaw

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    I do, but I'm on just my phone right now and every time I try and upload pics to FHC from my phone the website crashes. I can get some pics up in a couple days once I'm home again:)
     
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    Keweenaw, for what it's worth, we put up a new SS chimney when we bought the fireview as our old chimney was getting in bad shape. We ran the chimney up the side of the house and it is actually too short by all recommendations. Still, we've had no problems with it although last year we did add a short section (I think 3') to it. That short section has helped on those days when you get poor draft but we've also noticed that we get a bit more black crap at the very top of the chimney. Still, my wife can't leave it alone and she cleaned it this past fall. Why? She only got about a tablespoon or maybe a teaspoon full out of it. In addition, we can clean ours from the bottom up.

    We most times could easily go 3 years between cleaning. But I understand your concern and know what you are speaking about with roofs in your area and longer heating seasons too. A permanent ladder on that roof would be necessary for me! As for the chimney you have, I can't say for sure but it might work. The key would be draft as you would not be able to get the flue very warm and with a Fireview, you don't throw much heat up that chimney except on reloads. When you turn the cat on, the flue temperature drops. I just looked at ours and the flue temperature is 370. I had put 3 splits in just a bit ago and turned the cat on when the temperature reached 500 on the flue. The draft is set right at 1 at present but usually it is lower. Last night it set on about 1/4 all night with a load of oak. House stayed nice all night long.
     
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    Here are the pictures:

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    I really like that little wagon!

    By gore. I believe I may have seen that house before!
     
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    The second one is the only one I could find with my chimney in it, :rolleyes:
     
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    Will give that a go this weekend. I am finding that I need to reprogram as many of the habits I have came about by running the old stove.

    This is way lower than I have ever run; will give that a try later in the week. Perhaps this explains why I am not getting STT regularly up in the 600's.
     
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    HarvestMan, just be careful with the lower settings as sometimes the stovetop could soar way up. So the first time or three when you try the lower settings, be sure you are around to watch it. If the stove top temp goes up too high, give it a bit more air and you should be fine. The 1/4 setting is rare here but it seemed to work great the other day. I do remember one time trying it and had to give it more air as it shot up to about 710 or 720 by the time I caught it. No harm done though.
     
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    The wagon is great! Before that I was carrying wood from the woods to the stack in a Rubbermaid tub :rofl: :lol:
    Have you been by my place before?
     
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    And we can see why you don't like to clean it! The pitch on the upper part reminds me of my father in law's home. I cleaned that one....once. With steel roofing, it gave some pucker power for sure.
     
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    No I haven't but may have been past it a few times many moons ago. That's back when we lived near Gladstone and I used to go to Houghton. When I'd go, it was usually through Baraga then west and then north through Pelkie and Tapiola.
     
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    Was the corner store there that's just south of downtown Tapiola, it's called kurts korner now?
     
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    Wish I could remember. It was a long time ago.
     
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    No worries! Thanks for the help with the pics and all the good info :thumbs:
     
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    I usually ran my Fv under 1, like .75 or .5 (on 16' of insulated liner.) Never had a problem with the stove top temp going high..
     
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    Not sure I understand this theory. If I cut the air that far I get black glass or even stall the cat.
    What makes it go up when the air is set so low?
     
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