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2 stroke oil

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by chucker, May 13, 2015.

  1. Kg461

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    What oil are you running now Kenis?
     
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    + 1 !
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    I only run 32to1 in my ported saws but may run alil less in my mtronics saws
     
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    IMO the oil has nothing to do with power the engine produces. Power comes from the air the engine took in and is heated by the combustion process which causes the air to expand and create energy for the downard force on the piston. The oil Im sure produces ring seal and helps to a point though
     
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    All that crap I posted is just my opinion and thoughts in my head I thought I would share. Sorry if I only clogged the thread up with it but thought I would share
     
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    Personally I think we worry way to much about brands of oil instead of proper tuning, ratio of oil needed for application, and the oil to fit our application. But also I think it is determined by if u r choosing between performance, protection, or both
     
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    The last part is the most correct. I like more protection since most of my cutting is milling any more. All out performance isn't the most important thing to me. I'll be doing some testing if I ever get my 5 cube project going.
     
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    Ya Mike Ill choose protection over performance for longevity!! Hey Mike can u explain what the 3,4,5 cube and so on means? I really dont have a clue. Thanks
     
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    Cubic inch size.
    3=50cc
    4=65
    5=81
    6=99
     
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    So 3 cube is 50 to 64cc?
     
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    Yes but they have to be under for the race classes. They try to get the most cc they can into the class normally. 681 and 181/281 is the closest to 5 cube. 365 special is just under the 4 cube limit.
     
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    So a 181 and a 660 r both 5 cube?
     
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    20150509_134630.jpg Just finished this 181 the other day. Very strong running solid saw
     
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    181 is. The 660 is over 81 cc so it has to go to a 6 cube class.
     
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    ? ?

    So oil has nothing to do with ring seal? ? Hmmmm?

    Now you have me lost?

    Still running that slow H1R (I know several here have been reading the BS on it. You can't take an accurate reading/time with one cut in one log, and then change fuels and expect the oil that is all over the interior of that saw to just burn up and the saw automatically go from 32:1, to 40:1 because you changed the fuel. Frigging nonsense...)., but beating 90 cc saws in a 70 cc saw at 32:1. :D

    (Disclaimer - I actually run 36:1, but the day I was in Iowa (the day I am speaking about), I was using JRSDWS fuel, so it was truly 32:1).
     
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    I believe everything I posted Dex but its just my opinion. Mtronics doesnt take well to alota oil and especially H1r. Yes the oil helps ring seal and thats about it as the oils job is to reduce temp. Below catastrophic failures and thats it. As I stated the air and heat together produce energy to move the piston and not the oil. The oil that reaches the topend is seperated from the fuel but should burn off but most of us burn rich enough to see residual traces left behind. If the muffler can is oily inside its way too rich. Just my opinion and more thoughts! Lol!!
     
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