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Bar binding in cut.

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by clemsonfor, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. Chvymn99

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    Pictures or a videos may help with the diagnostics....;)
     
  2. clemsonfor

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    Maybe today but may have to wait. Its hard to get things done these days. But I will try and make a video today to post
     
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    Close-up pic of the bar and chain would be better.....
     
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  4. clemsonfor

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    I can do a pic easy.
     
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  6. clemsonfor

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    Be home in 40 mins :):ithappened:

    Amazing how busy one can be on a day off!
     
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    Mine did that last time out
    It was to the oiler. (I think)

    2 questions ?
    Not sure how it works,
    Does to little oil cause the Bar to get hot, expand & chain gets so tight it wouldn't turn. ?

    Does a dull chain causes the chain to get hot, expand & get loose ?

    Years ago I had my old Husqy 61 do that every now & then,
    Was a real bad, worn out , drive sprocket.
     
  8. clemsonfor

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    My chain. Is still turning.

    But bogey I think lack of oil would swell the chain so that it binds in the bar grove??
     
  9. clemsonfor

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    The first is a pic of the old stihl bar.

    The next one is the new bar. U can see where I guess it got hot and burned the paint off near the tip IMG_20141013_132352_260.jpg IMG_20141013_132509_643.jpg IMG_20141013_132448_863.jpg
     
  10. Butcher

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    Might be a stretch but this chain you are running, was it bought from a shop that makes them up from spools? and then puts them in the boxes that the chain mfg. supplies with the chain? Could be some one mis labeled the box?
     
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    Got it from jim goodall supply. They have a website bit I got it off ebay. It was in a zip bag with a label I think. Not an original package. Chain was new..think forester? The other chains from there were boxed...its possible they made this one up?

    I need to get calipers out and see the width on it.

    The chain is as it was on the bar as I used it. If anything just a tad looser than I tighten too. But not close to jumping off or being too loose.
     
  12. bogydave

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    How does it cut when first in the cut , before it locks up?
    Maybe a real dull chain or the rakers are to high ? (or both)
     
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    I see a dull chain. Time to sharpen.
     
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    It throws chips fine until halfway through the cut.

    I agree grazer it would benefit from a sharpening but dont think thats the problem. It cuts decent half way through.

    If I can I will throw it on grinder and try again. Wish mail order wasnt Bout my only option for a new chain...id like to see today what a new one would do?
     
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    Thats a semi chisel chain as well.
     
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    Has it been doing this since you put this chain on or is it a more recent development?
     
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    Not sure cause I almost always cut 3" stuff with this saw... bar doesnt get buried on that stuff.
     
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    About the sharpening thing. Best thing for you and the saw is to learn how to file a chain, ideally with guide like Granberg's.

    Then touch up the cutters at every other fill-up. Continuing to cut while waiting on pulling the chain & grinding it, is way sub-optimum.

    Keeping chain sharp makes life much easier on bar & engine too. Filing takes off much less metal than grinding. Much less.

    Yea, that chain is not looking good.

    Edit: I should add also FORGET FULL CHISEL, most especially with your weekly grinding shtick. Stick to semi-chisel.
     
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    Same chain on two different bars, gotta start suspecting the chain at this point. As rough as that sucker is looking, gotta think sharpening the thing is at least worth a shot. Sure looks like a dull chain to me.
     
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