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I'm Gellin :(

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by HoneyFuzz, Dec 24, 2022.

  1. brenndatomu

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    Oh, no kidding?!
    So that would be 5-10 gallons in what size tank?
     
  2. isaaccarlson

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    I know old truckers who would carry a can of gas. They called it the rug treatment, regular unleaded gas. Some said a gallon when you fill up, the rest said use it if you need it. Never tried it myself, and I don't know how the newer trucks would fare.

    now that we have #1, there is no need for gas.
     
  3. FarmerJ

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    It was typically 1 gal / 100 gal.

    depending on the original specs, tanks can be 50-200 gallons.

    a local straight truck will be 50 gals.

    My Volvo has a 150 and a 125 gal tank giving me about 240 usable gallons
     
  4. JimBear

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    100 gallon, 10 gallon would probably be a stretch, I would guess closer to 5 gallon is more accurate. I was just a tyke when I remember them doing it.
     
  5. isaaccarlson

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    Yep, it was years ago. I remember my dad always kept a can in the bunk door. It was for emergencies only, (fixing gel, starting a tire on fire if the truck broke down(I don't remember that ever happening), stuff like that)
     
  6. Fifelaker

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    A company I worked for had a 79' Mercedes straight truck, the manual sad you could run a 50/50 gas diesel ratio. I think that engine was a 1950's design. We never tried it as 911 has worked for years.
     
  7. FarmerJ

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    911 is only used AFTER you gel up….

    having said that….

    911 is like pouring heet in your gas tank on a gas engine. It removes moisture.

    Used a lot and on a regular basis can and likely will lead to injector damage.


    A habit I got on my last truck without tank heaters was to add an 80 oz bottle to each tank (120 gallon tanks at 90% fill) like once a month to remove accumulated moisture.

    most states mandate 10% biodiesel content. THAT is where most of the issues start coming into play now a days. Biodiesel is washed with water to remove alcohol and chemical as part of the manufacturing process.

    water accumulates in the tank as a result from both that issue and leaving your tanks low from condensation on the tank walls.

    that water really rears it’s ugly head and comes out as “gelling” but in reality, your fuel wax is freezing from excessive moisture content.


    Once I started operating with this in mind, most of my fuel issues went away without tank heaters.

    tank heaters keep your fuel at a temp well above these issues happening.
     
  8. HoneyFuzz

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    Wish me luck ! New filters and Howes still not here yet. Even have a Mason jar with Oz measurements on it lol.
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  9. FarmerJ

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    Luck.
     
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    I always use anti gel when I fill the can for my tractor and most of my diesel is bought before the winter blend is in the underground tanks and the only time I've had a problem was when I forgot to use it once.
    I've used the tractor with summer fuel/anti gel when it got down to -35 overnight and it ran fine once it started after being plugged in for an hour. I don't have glow plugs on my old beast either.
     
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  11. HoneyFuzz

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    Ran for 2 hours. The engine still wants to hunt a little. But had good power ...hopefully got enough of the 911 into the cheap inline filters to help until the new filters arrive. Even ran the pto to get the rear axle..and maybe fuel tank and lower filter area a little heat (long shot) .Got the 2 inches of packed down crud scrapped off the driveway...ice melt down. No slips and falls here !
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  12. HoneyFuzz

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    Did some thinking last night. To get the fuel working with the heat gun the other day... I had to concentrate the heat on the fuel pump and first inline filters. To those who aren't familiar with a BX....the fuel tank is under the seat. Then right in front of the rear axle is the first inline filter..into the fuel pump. Then it goes all the way up to the second filter by the engine..into the injection pump. That's a long way to go ! My thinking is that the water is mostly getting me in this first filters and steel fuel pump.
    My Dad's bigger Kubota tractors have all had the fuel tank under the engine hood..in front of the steering wheel..right down to a big filter/separator. As long as the machine starts....everything gets warm enough under the hood to keep the fuel warm . Never have used conditioners in those tractors...and they get used all year round. This little bx has alot going against it in this cold. I'll be better prepared from now on...and it won't be a big deal again..hopefully !
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    Think the new filters will definitely help. Gonna start changing them right before winter from now on.
     
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    I buy off-road diesel to fill a 50 gallon tank in the unheated garage. I fill as needed, not in any particular season but its usually warmer weather so I'm full for winter plowing. I've been treating it with Amsoil all in one diesel treatment since they started offering it as an all in one. It contains anti gel, injector cleaner / lubricant and cetane boost. Previously I bought them all separately since the mid 2000's. They also sell a diesel recovery product, for when gelling has already occurred, but I've never needed it even at -20F.
     
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    Thank you to everyone for all the valuable advice !
     
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    Glad yer up an running agin.
     
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