Stove ID

A friend called last night, and was afraid she was overfiring her wood stove, with 2 logs and 200° stack temp.
She's newly a widdow, and "cleaned" the chimney herself.
We're going over this afternoon to see the setup....what she has for wood, chimney lined or not, etc.
The location looks like an uninsulated summer place, and wood walls pretty close by.

Everything advice-wise will be assuming the chimney is clean, no creosote, is burning dry wood.
She sent us a pic of the stove. Any of yall ID it/have a general idea of its capabilities?

Thanks!
Sca

 

It looks like a Garrison 2 or 3 depending on size , which were actually a pretty nice stove. The only piece I'm not familiar with is the front "draft vents". My vents on perhaps a older model, were on the rear in the corners on the back of the stove and the input air could then flow down and under the load.

Still, I'm quite sure it is a Garrison. Soapstone interior, and quite a decent stove pre EPA stoves of today. I bought mine when I built my house in 1979.

Made in Claremont NH, I think some of the folks who used to work at Vermont Castings started this business.

This thread should probably be moved to non-EPA stoves.

 

Unless you can find a data tag on the back that says otherwise, that stove is very likely too close to the walls...

 

Whew...and I was nervous/ wondering about my hearth...

 

That one would make me very nervous ....

 

I concur with the hearth and clearance issues. With or without a tag, it looks too close for any code.
If I had to guess, PT residence, only source of heat....meant to take the chill of, not as a primary all winter. I mean who puts a wood stove near a cold sink like a window, except in a cottage? That and what appears to be an uninsulated wall.

I have no idea what we're walking into.

Thanks for the wisdom. Heading out shortly.
Sca

 

The Garrison 1 looks pretty close to what this is.
The baffle in this stove is a rigged piece of steel. But it seems to work.
It is shielded, but that windowsill is 10" out. And its an interior wall.
The woodork is pretty darn close....18"on the right side.
This passed muster with the town inspector!!

I suggested that she look up the regs for pre-epa stoves clearances (which here are a set number if there is no tag), and extend the hearth to 18"-20" in front of the door.
The wood she's burning looks good, and the whole chimney is steel with a cleanout inside the house.

This stove burns hot and takes very little time to heat the space. It is indeed a smoke dragon. The space to be heated is small, it is a summer cottage.

Thanks to all I have learned here, we were able to talk intelligently about burning hot, using wood volume to control temp, and when to close down the air intake, among a host of other things.

Sca

 

Taking another look at that picture, it probably is the Garrison One. Which was the largest of their stoves. With a full load, it would burn all night easily. Did it not have the round steel plates on both upper rear corners that screw in/out to control intake draft?

I hope she has a really good woodpile and some good winter clothing, if she is in New England and living in that place all winter. I'm picturing a camp on a lake with a little dirt road leading into lakeside property, like the one my parents used to rent in the summer here in Ma. Maybe impossible to drive in and out of the access road without a 4 wheel drive high-clearance truck or SUV. Never mind feeding that woodstove 24X7 to stay warm. Any running water for cooking or bathing? I'm guessing not if that's the only heat source.

Yikes. Rugged living. Good luck to her. She's lucky she has you as a friend at least to guide her with the wood-burning Sca.

 

I think she'll get along. With friends. And newly alone. So the usual questions about how things were set up.
It is rugged, she's a rugged chick, it is a good place for her to be.

I dont think it had but perhaps one steel plate, I thought it was a trivet I was looking at. Air intakes are in front of the ash drawer.
It burned hot on 2 logs and kindling, and the place is tiny, so it roasts one out pretty quickly.

So its "coincidence" that the needs she has, are strikingly similar to what we've done in our house in these last few years...we have some of the knowledge, tools, and some material.

Blessings,
Sca

 

She's blessed to have you as a friend! Reminds of Henry David Thoreau's stay at Walden Pond.

"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived."

 

Where we live.
Not country where I grew up....so people on every side, street lights all over, not a lot of privacy, and everything we do is well watched and likely on camera. We are short on space, need a little more for wood stacking, would like to build a pagota or two, but streets and homes and traffic are not scenic, nor do they evoke peace.
If things get funny (civil unrest caused by whatever) we're just a sneeze from a lot of unasvory folk, who will likely be trouble...or who would be better kept at arms length.

Not many here grow their own food, raise their own animals, or even a small portion of what they need. Most don't have the interest but many have the space. Those who do have a large garden, or a supply of firewood really stand out (i'm not speaking of one-chop-wonders who have an uncovered 6' rack of rotten firewood and think they're pioneers capable of surviving the rugged environ).

Here, the govt will come and help, someone else will see to it our needs are met, and those in charge, have our best interest at the forefront. The power will never go out, or not for long...someone else will make sure I can run my fridge, heat my home (and if they don't, we'll go after the power company for money for lost food, or days without service.......yes that happened here).

This may be painting with a really broad stroke, but the self reliant and the resourceful, are few and far between. Its easier to pay someone to do work for us, than to learn a new skill or to look it up on line. When the pot of food on the stove is on fire, why would the able-bodied slap a cookie sheet on it, or toss the pot into the yard, why open windows and air the place out when you can call the fire department and get them to do that for you?? (Some are good looking hunks or dames, and all look good in turnout gear and packing irons).

When we lived in apartments, we were those people to a degree. We had several large storms here....2010 ish, power out for days x2 that year: people loosing money and food for lack of ability to refrigerate, cook, bathe, heat or sleep if the temps inside dipped below 50, or the tv wasnt blaring all night long. We have a huge HUGE renter/condo type population here, where everything is someone else's responsibility.

There are good and responsible people here (we've met one or three in the last 15 years here) And those whom God loves are here also.

Sca

 

Connecticut/Massachusets
Sca

 

I don’t believe that is a Garrison. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure. Air vents at the bottom of wood stove doors was pretty common back then, but they were “in” the load doors and very few had a separate ash pan door let alone an ash pan door with vents.

A lower ash door suggests an ash pan for coal. So does the vents at the bottom of each corner of the stove (look closely), as well as the heavier ash lip, and looking through the glass it appears there could be a coal retaining bar behind the glass. I’m guessing this wasn’t a straight up coal or straight up wood stove, but maybe a wood/coal stove, or duel fuel stove of some brand.

Pictures of the inside of the stove would confirm or deny my suspicions. Like I said, I could be wrong.


EDIT:
Maybe it’s a Garrison wood/coal stove.
garrison wood stove images - Google Search

The link leads to a competitor site. Hope it’s ok to give the link here. Garrison Stoves

2nd EDIT:
Looks like we might both be right. Follow the link. Who’d have thunk it! They did make a duel fuel stove.

 

It very well could be a Garrison coal stove which from what little I have read this evening was likely a wood/coal model and called a coal model.

Still, the ash lip and the doors are different than any picture of Garrison’s that I have seen.

Still could be another brand stove, but it’s looking like it very well could be a Garrison coal stove...a duel fuel stove. An attempt at a coal stove from a wood stove frame of mind and design...which usually isn’t built quite well enough when compared to those coal stoves of the same era with a better reputation as a coal stove. Glacier Bay/Gibraltor stoves being two names from that era that come to mind that had better reputations, still do, as being stoves built like tanks.