New tractor issue

Tractor dealers tend to repair farmer’s tractors before homeowners or hobby farmers.

 

True, but still not fair to us lowly homeowners

 

And a paying customer takes precedence over warranty

 

Usually 3 series and under is Yanmar.

 

Commercial customers tend to take the front seat at any repair shop...since they are earning their living with the machine and all...and yes, retail customer over warranty work...because the factory often makes the dealership take reduced price to make a warranty repair.

 

Should he be eating green snappah's instead?


Yeah Dave, that's no good, but at least it's under warranty, and I know Deere is good to their customers.

 

Exactly. What a dumb idea. Exactly why diesels are going the way of the dodo.

 

When I had my shop warranteed parts also came with XX amount of labor time based on XX rate. If your rate was higher than what they allowed you had to eat the difference or charge the customer. We'd often get 1 hour of travel time (but no travel expense) and then the XX fixed time to replace the part, but not any analysis time for determining what was wrong. You didn't get paid for all the office time doing the freaking paperwork either.

 

You'd think that with there possibly being water in the engine oil, they'd at least take a look and dump the oil

 

Hang in there Dave. It'll be just a bad dream in the rearview mirror, before ya know it.

 

I called the dealer again today. They looked at it today. Apparently 2 separate unrelated problems at the same time. The low coolant was a loose clamp on a hose. The poor engine running and fouled oil is a bad injector. They changed the oil and sent all of the injectors off for testing because they couldn't tell which one it was. The tractor was running fine and the coolant level and engine oil were fine when I put the tractor away the weekend before.

 

But why then would the oil appear to have coolant or other non oil product in it? Would diesel in the oil look like that when all agitated?

 

Typical

 

Yeah I ain't buying it...that oil looked to have water in it...not diesel fuel! (maybe the picture was deceiving?)

 

I think I have the same tractor... 1025r? My tractor is extremely cold blooded and smokes for the first 10 to 30 seconds on a COLD start. In warm weather, there's no smoke, no stutter... In temps below 40º F it does what yours does.... kind of... Mine clears up and runs clean, yours may indeed have an injector issue...

The oil does not look milky to me? My AC B had rain water fill the crankcase... That was milky!!!

I can't stress this enough, make sure you have a block heater, and plug it in for a ½ hour before starting it up in temps below 40º. Much less smoke and stuttering!!
Also, invest in a $3.00 piece of 1¼" chrome plated brass kitchen sink drain pipe and use it as an elbow on the end of the factory exhaust. It will divert the exhaust out to the side, away from the back of the loader or front mounted implement. Hot exhaust gas blowing on the back of a snowblower makes for a clogging, icy mess...




Also, be sure to use a good fuel treatment year round. Cold weather and the wrong blend of diesel can lead to gelling. Be sure to change both fuel filters, the one by the right rear of the engine and the tiny one under the left floorboard... Clean, treated fuel is essential!! Keep extra filters on hand!!!

These little tractors are tuned to pass emissions requirements and are cold blooded!!!!! Not like the little diesels of 10 or 20 years ago!! And there's no DEF used or DPF system on the little 1025r's or 1023e's

If you trust your dealer, give him a break... this is a busy time of the year for their shop with farmers harvesting and trying to beat the weather..


Good luck.!

 

Hope it works out Dave.

Last week I bought a 33 HP Case DX33 loader tractor. Specifically bought a pre emission one with 398 hour on it.

 

Thanks, that's all very helpful. I figure if the dealer hasn't diagnosed the issue correctly and the oil is fouled with water...it'll show up again.

Got the block heater, understand about good fuel. Don't the service stations start selling winter diesel fuel? It's still necessary to treat it with anti gel?

That exhaust mod is a great idea! I decided to go with a loader mounted plow, and will add a rear blower at some point.

 

In a perfect world your local station would always have the right blend of #1 and #2 diesel to prevent cold weather gelling problems, but a good fuel additive is still important. These modern Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel fuels lack the lubricity that older diesel fuels had so that makes a good additive that much more important to your pump and injectors.... along with low temp anti gel... Picking an additive is like asking, "which oil is best?" Everyone will have a favorite. There's no shortage of additives... Deere sells one, Power Service (white bottle for regular winter or year round use, red bottle for EMERGENCY anti gel ONLY), Lucas, Howes...... The list goes on...

Also, some people have used a short 90º pre-formed silicone heater hose elbow from a car... like this... to the exhaust. Adding anything to divert the exhaust will keep everything so much cleaner!!



Just as long as it's short and light.....

Good luck!