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wheel horse log splitter?

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by jetjr, Mar 4, 2014.

  1. MasterMech

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    16 gpm is doable on 9-10 gallons, more is better. If you really do intend to belt drive the pump, keep in mind that you can't just throw a pulley on the pump shaft. If the pump was meant to be direct driven, it will not tolerate side load from belt tension and will fail early. You will need to mount a small shaft on two pillow block bearings and the pulley on one end, driving the pump via a lovejoy coupler on the other. It's simpler to do than it sounds and a pic would be golden, unfortunately, I'm fresh outta those..... :confused:

    You could just mount the whole splitter up front too.....
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    Think I will just mount it on the motor. I have about 15 projects going on plus 3 kids so it might take some time. I will post some pics if I can get my stupid phone to work right. once I have all the parts I hope its just a couple hour job. For no more than I am going to run the tractor for other stuff I am not to worried about the pump running all the time. Not using for mowing and can use the 4wheeler to pull small trailer and other yard stuff.
     
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    Ordered a speeco 16 gpm pump last night. Looking at reservoirs and the are about as expensive as the pump or more. Anyone have any ideas on making one. I have an old air compressor tank and was wondering if one could be made from it.
     
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    Yep, Beer kegs any thing that will hold fluid and don't leak. I would not use plastic.
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    I guess I missed the initial design of the "build".

    You have 3-pt splitter now and want to power it with the 12hp off the wheel horse mower motor - or do you want to drive the tractor(assuming this is a separate tractor) to splitting area and then the wheelhorse there as well and hook it up?
    I'd just add aux hydraulic connections to the motor/pump mounted to the splitter if you want portable hydraulic power - would save driving two tractors to one location...and the walking back to get the other one if you get my drift:smoke:

    You are going to be doing some welding so no fault in practicing on some scrap pieces to get into a groove before the finished product -we're here to help on rods/wire if needed:campfire:
     
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    ^^^ milkcrate approved:rofl: :lol:
     
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    sorry was not real clear on that part of it. I am planning on leaving the splitter in my splitting area. its built on 4 legs and does not have to be hooked to the 3pt on the tractor. using the wheelhorse as a little mobile hydraulic center type of deal. I guess it would help if i post some pictures. if my phone ever stops being stupid i will post pics of splitter and build as it goes. eventually may convert the splitter to a small trailer type but for now it will stay stationary plus can use the new holland to move wood around as needed.
     
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    PHOTO_20140307_152930.jpg PHOTO_20140307_152940.jpg Here are some pics of old ugly. This is what I am making the" wheel horse hydraulic chariot" for. As i get more into it I will post more pics.
     
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    Got the pump today. If I can ever get the wheel horse out of the shed and into the garage I will be doing something even if it is wrong.
     
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    Maybe you can make it a belt driven splitter using something like this!:)

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    You'd be splitting wood just keep the tractor running! Looks like an old steamer there.
     
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    That's a nice looking machine. Whats running off the belt. Bet you could make a wheel of death splitter with it. I'm half crazy and those things scare the bejesus out of me.
     
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    I am slowly assembling the parts for this.
     
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    That speco pump, as well as most other hydro pumps for log splitters, do not take kindly to side loads from a belt drive ( you will blow the seals quickly) Therefor some type of jack shaft will be needed with the lovejoy/ or similar coupling on one end and the sheeve on the other.
     
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    Yea I decided instead of belt driving it to go direct with an adapter to hold it and lovejoy couplings. next paycheck I will probably get those parts. little by little. no rush on it.
     
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    if i do decide to belt drive the pump how do i figure out what pulley size i need for the pump. the bearings and all should be easy enough to mount. no pics yet still in the material gathering mode while trying to finish other projects.
     
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    The pump is most likely designed to run at 3400 RPM. So since most small engines run about there, give or take, at full throttle, you could use the same size pulley as what's on the engine for a 1:1 ratio.

    However, in your case, you will most likely have power to spare running a 16GPM pump on a 12 HP engine. You could certainly get away with overdriving the pump a bit, reducing engine RPMS, fuel use, and engine wear/noise. You could for example, use a pulley that's 3/4 of the size of what's on the engine. If the engine pulley was a 4 inch (hypothetically) you could use a 3 inch on the pump, run the engine at 2550RPM and the pump would be happily humming along at 3400 RPM.
     
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    Finally got the wheel horse into the garage. 1 thing I forgot to consider is that the drive pulley is also mounted to that shaft. doh.:headbang::headbang:. I think I am going to belt drive it for sure. I have a buddy that's an awesome welder/fabricator and he owes me one or two. (Or is it the other way around):whistle:. going to mount a pulley and all the associated materials and reservoir up front.
     
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    Little by little. Finally got the hood and deck off. PHOTO_20140330_103436.jpg PHOTO_20140330_114804.jpg
     
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