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Blaze King "King" model

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by saskwoodburner, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. jeff_t

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    Read that again as constant output for twelve hours, not peak output. 'Slotta heat. My king would burn for hours at 600+ on top, even hotter on the front of the stove.

    My guess is that it's a draft issue.
     
  2. showrguy

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    BK King Ultra here, heating 5600 sq.ft. No problem, running on low/medium, high would run me outa the house...
    Love this damm thing....... Your mileage may vary !!

    Edit'I'd love to read the original thread that the beginning quote came from, but I can't find it..
     
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    Ok, looks like we have established both ends of the BK satisfaction spectrum! :D
     
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    5600 sq ft, and it's doing fine?
    As I said, the guy's doing something wrong...or several somethings.
     
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    It is rarely the stove. Usually it's the wood, operator, installation, poor insulation. In that order.

    I remember a video of someone ranting about how awful the 30nc is. How it didn't produce heat and how he could touch the top of the stove with his bare hand.

    The 30nc isn't the greatest stove, but the damm thing can easily reach 800+ degrees.
     
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    I think I even reposted that video on here at one time to poke fun at the idiot drama queen. Notice how he never did "touch" the stove.
     
  8. Canadian border VT

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    Welcome showrguy .. please don't take this wrong I am truly curious.. not doubting you.. is your house superbly insulated? is your stove centrally located? my house is 2200ish square feet.. stove on 1 end and 6 inch of pink in walls 12 in roof.. my Woodstock can keep up until about 15 below depending on winds..

    I got a rental unit about 5800 Sq feet (4 units) side by side each big unit (2000 sq ft) has 125k btu furnace small units 950 ish square feet have 85k btu furnace.. trying to imagine how any I stove could heat that? State law here says a furnace in rental unit has to be able to maintain an 80 degree difference inside and outside temp.. my tenants (since we see 20 to 30 below once a year think that should be at least 100 degree increase
     
  9. T-Stew

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    I assumed they were rated similar to other stoves but since you mentioned it they don't run like other stoves - with that thermostat and more constant heat. With over 4 cuft I didn't doubt the total btu anyhow but I just wondered if maybe it's peak wasn't as great since it is more of a steady burner maybe the fellow is just used to more radiant heat even if its only for 1/4 of the time the mind plays tricks like that. Or more likely he has problems of course.

    Way back when I was on my last round of stoves I really wanted the King. Just couldn't fit. My place ain't no 5000+ but it's almost 3k and poorly insulated, it still takes two stoves below freezing and today with the high winds which makes the leakiness worse I am struggling to maintain 65F. But I am still keeping the pellet burner on medium (it doesn't burn well if I go past medium) and the Ideal Steel on a 2x load schedule. I could run the Ideal a lot harder if I wanted to, but it's got to be colder than 65 in here before I break down and feed it 3 loads a day.
     
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    ^ Could very well be the problem^
    The stove isn't getting hot (wood, operator, install) or he's used to a red hot pre EPA. No stove ran at a decent temp will match it.
     
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  11. T-Stew

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    I read the original post just recently but now I can't find it. I assumed it was from Hearth but Sask says otherwise. I'm on a whole lotta forums but it would have stood out to me if someone was talking about such things on an unrelated forum and I don't recall it being in a weird place so I got nuthin. Facebook Homesteading group maybe? I know I read it just recently lol.
     
  12. jeff_t

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    I see what you are saying. It probably doesn't peak as high a lot of other stoves. If it's an Ultra with side shields and convection deck, it probably feels like even less.

    The smoke spillage when loading says he has a draft problem or doesn't know about the bypass. Lots of princess owners complain about it, but it seems never any kings. I never had an issue, either. Sometimes it was a struggle to get it packed tight before I had a blow torch inferno shooting through the bypass. Never any smoke coming out of the door.
     
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    Not taken the wrong way at all, I have 6" in the walls, 24" in the ceiling, built this place in 2001-02..
    My house is a very open floor plan. Stove is in a 2 story great room with ceiling fans, if this house was 2 full floors cut up into little rooms, I doubt you could heat it with any single stove..
    We rarely see temps much below -5/10 deg. But even with the OWB, if we did get that low and it was blowing 20 mph.+, the OWB could"not offset the ammo8nt of cold coming from all the windows and doors..
    Does that make any sense at all ??
    House is insulated well, but not super tight/sealed..
     
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    showrguy thanks for being an FHC kind of guy! :handshake: in other places I have found questioning A BK performance gets people a little:hair:.. when trying to decide on my stove ...most BK owners were west coast and using softwood.. talking long burns in around freezing temps... my world of high temps of 2 degrees for a week... I want heat now! .. 10 to 12 hour burn times are fine.. wasn't addressed as readily! I bet that great room looks amazing!

    totally understand well insulated not well sealed... got 30 mph winds off the lake now! fiberglass is a terrible air sealer... so builders put up vapor barrier of plastic and then put 5000 staples in it! in my mind that makes it a screen!
     
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    Oh, really? Where might that be? ;) :rofl: :lol:
    But yeah, I'd wager the guy doesn't have enough pipe up there, if he can't open the door without smoking the room. Hell, he didn't even mention having a blower on the stove. Nevertheless, from what I've read, the BKs are more of the "steady Eddie" variety, not face-melting flame-throwers like some other big stoves.
     
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    I understand whatcha mean about some BK owners, I hope I don't come across that way..
    I did find a picture (not a great one) I took last year, the saw is an MS880 w/a 59" b/c, overall measures about 7' long, the stone fireplace is 14' wide... HPIM0459.JPG
     
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    showrguy no you aren't that way at all! and yup you need to post some more pics:yes: I just tend to be careful with those BK owners you fit right in! great saw! gorgeous stone work.. from what I can see!
     
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    Thanks Canadian bored VT,
    I'll have to get some better pictures, the moose was 55" wide but his horns blend right in with the stone because of the poor lighting..
     
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    Here, I touched it up a little for you, can't do miracles with it that dark to start with, at least with my modest skill, but maybe this will help a bit. Awesome saw, man. I'm still just putzing around with a cheap 290 and 20" bar that's probably too big for it :saw:

    HPIM0459.JPG
     
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    It's been suggested to him to join the other place to get help running his stove.

    Does the BK have a fan set up that blows through the inside of the stove jacket?