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Leaking glass

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Well Seasoned, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. DexterDay

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    I knew there was air coming in on that left side. When a hot burn is in place and flame is where it shouldn't be? Then something is leaking. I said door gasket, because most times they fail before glass gaskets.

    Glad you found it! Could have gotten bad if unnoticed.
     
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  2. BrowningBAR

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    WellSeasoned, where in Eastern PA are you? Most Ace Hardware stores carry a selection of gasket material and most stove shops do as well, you do not need to stick with a Jotul seller. Figure out the gasket size and you should be able to find a replacement.

    Owning VC stoves has resulted in me keeping an eye on who sells gaskets since there are so many of these dammed things on VC stoves.
     
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    Good idea. An air leak that you know about & don't seem to be over firing the stove.
    You can control it a little with less air.
    It can wait a few days until you have better weather conditions to do the repair.
    Then you can go in , replace , fix the leaks & stop future ones .

    Since new, ever replaced the gaskets ?
     
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    Also, can I just take a moment to say VC and their love of gaskets can #$@&%*! off. I look forward to the King/Princess/Steel setup just so I'm not #$@&%*!ing with gaskets every summer.
     
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    I don't know about other stove brands, but the original Buck ash pan gasket was high-density stuff; All I see in the stove shops, farm stores, etc. are the low-density, fluffy 'air gaskets.' I'm going to try OEM gaskets from the stove makers only and see if they work better/last longer.
     
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    As someone that has used the official Vermont Casting Gasket Kit, I offer you a hardy "Good luck."
     
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  7. Well Seasoned

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    Yes, you were absolutely right. It was in a very sneaky spot. Working good for now, hopefully can get the stove shop out here soon.
     
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    Lehigh valley, official yotul kit coming soon, and a back up.
     
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    Never replaced any as of yet.
     
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    I had a glass leak on my window a few seasons back. The glass was a little loose, and I would have a repetitive soot haze pattern on the glass at each air leak. I picked up the gasket material from my dealer and it was great after that. Lately I have been getting dirty glass, even at high temp burns around 600 degrees, so I think something is amiss.

    One thing I do recall is that the metal clips to hold the glass in place had a notch or two on them to hold a small piece of very flat gasket between the clip and glass. It helped snug the glagg in nicely. I am due soon, so thanks for putting this up to remind me to get the gasket set.
     
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    The stove shop is scheduled to come out this Saturday to replace the gaskets on the stove. Whats cool is I'll be like a kid in a candy store because their van is filled with stove trinkets. I'll probably grab a few more thermometers, probe and stovetop, and whatever else I can find. :thumbs:
     
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    I don't mean to sound like a douche, but, dude, you can do that yourself and have it done this evening.
     
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    Ya, I know. Looks easy according to you tube, but for the first time I'll do the watch and learn thing. They will bring a backup gasket kit for the next time I need it done. Time is an issue as well. A couple extra bucks, no biggie.
     
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    I agree with BB,,, do it yourself.... The stove guy is going to get it done as fast as he can to go onto his next job.... Suppose he leaves and you now see what you think is still a leak around the glass,,, you'll be diving into yourself anyways... Doing it yourself,,, you'll take your time and do a good job, plus you'll now know how your gasket get's installed.... Maybe you'll even see something outside the book that's causing your leak, bad casting area, etc.. My Esse cook stove just came with a clear high temp plastic looking strip to keep the glass off of the clips and cast iron door... Apparently being shipped to burn coal, they are not too concerned to have an airtight door glass... So after spotting that, I went and got door glass gasket with the sticky backing and folded it around the glass , then slowly tightened the screws holding the clips... 2 turns, wait 30 minutes, 2 turns, then hung the door... Fired the stove,,, on the next reload just touched the screws until snug, not buried... A week later I checked them and all good... Now I have a nice air tight firebox... I'm sure you can fix your own gasket with ease! Listen, you'll be glad you did after you did it...It's not rocket science...

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    Yeah, my neighbor was gonna buy the Gasket for his Regency and have the dealer install it. The gasket for his stove "kit" was like $69. Prob gonna be over $100 by the time they installed it..

    So I told him I would do it.

    I went to my local Hearth shop and bought the Door gasket and flat window gasket. It was $13.50 for the materials ($8 for 6 ft of door gasket and $3.50 for 5 ft of window/flat gasket) and I charged him $20 total. I even repainted the door when I had it off. Saved him about $80.

    Only takes a fee minutes. As long as you buy the right size, you'll be good to go.

    By all means, if you don't have the time to do it, then the dealer will be the best option. But I am positive you could do it and we would all walk you through it. Remove old one, scrape any remaining cement or silicone, apply new silicone, install gasket, cut ends to have a nice straight end, mate ends together, and let cure.
     
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    Ok, we'll see what happens. :)
     
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    Show us some Hoarder Moderator spine and know-how:rofl: :lol:
     
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    You just made the list... :p
     
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    I'm going to replace my door , glass and ash door gaskets myself this spring....wish me luck....also going to try and put a pipe damper in....:)
     
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    Nothing hard about this.. Just take your time and clean off all the old gasket and cement.. I haven't installed a pipe damper but believe you drill a hole straight through the stove pipe to clear the shaft of the pipe damper.. Make sure you get the holes dead center on both sides and you're good to go..
     
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