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Ready for Spring Nor'easter - Installed a Harman Pellet Stove Today

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by don2222, Mar 20, 2016.

  1. DexterDay

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    Nice work Don! Is that the shop you made under your porch? That is gonna be a great looking place once you get it finished!

    Congrats and I wish you the best of luck with your business! You've come a long way and what you've done and accomplished? Is what many dream of! My hopes are to do what you've done.. one day!! LoL!
     
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  2. Lousyweather

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    yea, sure......might need more parts like a motor or two, but still, replaceable....no reason to think it wouldnt.
     
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  3. don2222

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    I just got the Lows iris T-stat on it last night so I turned it on from my bedroom this morning to warm it up while I have breakfast
    Basically, I set the stove to room temp and the temp dial to 70 and then to turn the stove on, I set the iPhone to 95 degs and watch the room temp go up on my iPhone. The Harman will regulate the room to 70. Then I can shut it down or the Harman will shut down if the outside gets warm during the day.
    In the cold days of winter I can set the Harman auto/manual switch to manual and the Harman will go to a low burn after the room warms up just like other stove with hi/low or I can still shut it down when ever I want with the iPhone.
    Got a gimbal can light in the ceiling to shed some light and make it a real show piece too!
     

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    Cool beans!

    That set up works exactly opposite of my thermostat - I set the thermostat to my set temp (72) and the P43 is set at 80, Room Temp.
     
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    With your setup, the stove may stop & start more because the pellet feed is on high trying to reach 80 degs. The Harman service bulletin states to do it this way. The pellet feed varies to keep the room at the set temp on the temp dial and the stove will still shut down on a hot day. I first thought of doing it your way and it does work. How do you like it that way?
     
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    Works perfect. Feed rate is on 3 (as it was before I installed the T-stat). Not much stopping and starting and doesn't use much for pellets. But, a lot of that may have to do with my circumstances and where I have placed the thermostat. And of course when in negative numbers I switch it to stove temp anyway because I don't want it to shut down at all. If your set up works well for you - great!
     
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    So far it is working fine, I like to turn it on when I am on my way back to the shop from a job with the iPhone and see what the shop temperature is on the iPhone.

    Thanks for your comments.
     
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  9. Lousyweather

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    do what works for your situation.....but, for folks reading this...all our situations aren't the same. What works for me, might not work for you......
     
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    DON, I am wondering what those "doors" are on your hearth sides? I see 3. (one has the wording)
     
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    Hi don. What did you install for an auger motor. I've been having issues with an advance i picked up 2 years ago. Not really happy with the heat output from it. It's a basement install with Selkirk direct temp up 5 ft then out 2 ft to termination.its around the same age as yours I think with s serial no of 012596 but I can't tell its age for sure. Ive been watching the auger spin and it spins in a clockwise direction. Interesting that yours had a CCW motor. I'm just fishing here but is it at all possible that the previous owner may have installed the wrong motor at some point. Would the stove even run if that was done at some point. I have a very low feed to the pot on start up and never get that big fire going on startup like I'm used to in my p68. Fire remains low even after start up cycle is complete. I don't head a lot of prllets dropping in the feeder body. I did a lot of reading of ttdbergs post about slow start up of his p68 and my stove is acting just like that. I'm baffled at this point
     
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    Nice first post!! don2222 can hopefully answer some of your questions.

    Harman stoves have great heat output, but is your basement insulated?
     
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    Hi dex. It's been a while for sure. Been laying low here and just burning par time. I have been busy though and am now the proud owner of the advance ,a p68 and I just picked up a used 2004 Harman insert for $500 that I'm in the process of overhauling. I have a pretty good handle on how these thingd work bug this one has me stumped. Yes basement is finished and fully insulated.basement is 1,100 sqft. It's more an issue with the stove not producing heat than heat loss in the basement. The fire just never resly gets going. It's clean as a whistle.
     
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    If I remember correctly from previous posts, and looking at his comment here, his issue is the flame never gets big to put out heat - my interpretation is it stays in a maintenance burn from start up.
     
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    IIRC he also has access to a DDM. Corkman, Maybe start a new thread and post what you have already tried snd we'll jump in from there. Lousyweather is also a Harman guru and might notice something.?

    Posting some pic's would also help determine if its similar to tt's issues.
     
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    Just for extra storage. I do not like to waste space. :)
     
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    If it turned the wrong direction, it would not feed the pellets at all. All the chain drive units use CCW auger motors that 4 RPM motors. The Rpm can be checked with a stop watch. Just time one revolution. Gleason Avery auger motors are one of the best.
     
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    There was an issue with some circuit boards at one time that only burned on a low flame.
     
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    yea, its possible the wrong motor was put on, with someone not knowing.....but, all chain drives are CCW motors, like Don says. If in fact the wrong one was put on, it wouldn't feed at all, would cram pellets toward the rear of the stove, likely destroying the gears in the gearbox. Do pellets spill out the front of the auger when you put it in TEST mode? Please also note that your point of view makes a difference here....all the augers are the same....there isn't a different auger for the chain drive units, so, from the front, they all go clockwise. If its going counterclockwise, ya gots the wrong motor (I don't think yours is going in the wrong direction).
    I would really think about checking the pencil switches on the circuitboard....and those settings depend on which circuitboard you have....what revision. Look for a label on the chip, tell us exactly what it says...from there we can probably guide you to what the switches should be set at.....maybe yours is correct, maybe not....some folks monkey with that stuff having no clue what they are changing. Also, nice to know which ESP probe you have....is it a black wire or a red wire ESP? I know you don't have a DDM, but that would tell us what the board is reading, and also I'd like to see draft numbers....no one ever gives them though :(

    Also, empty the bin COMPLETELY, and see if there isn't a lot of dust riding on top of the slide plate, restricting flow. Also, have you cleaned out the feeder weldment fines container? Its in the back.....lots of folks don't know it needs cleared every season.
     
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    Ty lousy weather. Yes pellets do spill out in front of the auger in test mode and from the front if the stove the auger does spin clockwise. Stove has s black esp and yes I do actually have a ddm. Sliding plate is clear as is the fines box. I'm gonna plug in the ddm and get you some pics. Ty all for your input thus far