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  1. clemsonfor

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    As for passing like USFS regulations do they specify a number of holes per inch or something? I was just thinking it was spark arestor? It still looks small it's not like it's giant holes. If I could remember a thread on here where a pic was posted I would link it but I can't think of where I have seen it?
     
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    Thank you fur your input Clem...that's ok...when I use to chase...pizz furs would come around every onece and awhile...they would have a little rods like the ones you clean tourtchs with. Poke them in there...if failed...they would red flag the saw.... Until you got it fixed. Besides Cali. Is pretty dry and I would hate to start a fire...
     
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    Afternoon friends...still havin problems with 61...I can't get it to stop slobberin...and now it's blowin fuel out the carb... IMG_20160229_145042.jpg IMG_20160229_145032.jpg I have leaned the Hi out to 3/4 and more...to the point where almost kills the saw...anything over 3/4...the saw bogs....could the low be runnin to rich...is the what cause the gas to blow back thru the carb...thanks guys fur any ideas...
     
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    Maybe I misread but it sounds like your turning the needle out to lean it?

    Clockwise will lean the mix. How many turns from seated is the needle?
     
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    Thank you fur your input red fin...I am turnin them in...as the Hi sets right now...1/2 to seat and the low is settin at 1 3/4 to seat...that don't seam right...but it will start and run up...thank you...
     
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    I tune my L on a warm saw by turning it in until the saw starts to rev higher, back it out just a bit and check response. If it bogs, keep turning it out till response is quick. Then set your idle screw.
     
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    Thank you fur input redfin...I did that and that's where it sets now...1 3/4 is alot fur the low isn't it...fur the Hi....that's a bit lean isn't it...do you think the fuel through the carb is from the low bein to rich... Thank you fur your help redfin....
     
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    Turn both screws in all the way. Now back them both out like 1 1/4 turn or 1 turn. Now try to start the saw. If it won't idle turn the Idle screw up till it does. Then adjust the L screw for max idle and then go back richer till it slows a bit then back lean a tiny amount but not as much as max idle u got. If you have snappy throttle resPonsE leave it there and adjust idle. You may need to do the L again. (Probably many beter descriptions than this) Once that's set then adjust the H till it 4 strokes wot no load and cleans up in cut.


    The L does not make the saw slobber at wide open. It's two different systems.

    Something is not right. Maybe the kit was junk or you just need a new carb? Or to rebuild it again?
     
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    Thank you fur your input Clem....I did that many times now...turn them both down to seat...run them out to 1 1/4 or so...start the saw and adjust as you describe....it always ends up with the Hi bein around 1/2 turn to the seat and the low bein around 1 1/8 to 1 1/2....the saw is snappy...it starts every time...if I let it set fur a couple ours...I choke it and it starts about forth pull...I let it warm up..it still snappy...wich is amazing considerin its all used parts except the fuel line, fuel filter and carb kit...my understand was and is...if the Hi is runnin rich...the saw will slobber...if you lean it out...the slobber will clean up....I know the low and hi are two different systems....I know the low dosent make the saw slobber.... My question about the low was....if it runs to rich... Would it cause the fuel to blow back thru the carb. Did you see the picture of my carb with fuel on it....could that be a rich low....when I pulled the spark arrestor... It wasn't pugged...but it did run much better... I put it on...took it off a coupe of times...always runs better off...so I opened up the exhaust deflector and put in a new screen...seen in the piture above...dose run a bit better....I thought about addin another deflector and open it up....but I don't know if I will...when you hit the throttle... It is snappy...not like new snappy...but a lot snappyer than when I started workin on it...burned a tank and in 1/2 tryin to get it tuned in...maybe i will take the carb off my 266 XP...swop them out tomorrow....when I do run the saw up ....it tops out with a little blubber... The thing I wanted to try and solve is...the slobber and the gas blowin back...thank you fur all your help Clem...
     
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    Gas blowing out is not normal. If the L is too rich it won't idle period. Even at that point gas should not be running out.

    I am not sure if the gasket was damaged or the carb has a problem...is one of the press in fittings like the fuel inlet loose?

    I'd say it's time for a new carb on this saw.
     
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    Thank you fur your input Clem and good mornin...do you know if the carb off my 266xp will fit it...what about the slobber...the high is leanned out...still slobbers...I bet I go out after it gets light...It will start an idle and run up....do you think it would help to open the muffler up to release more back pressure... Thank you Clem...have a good day...
     
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    I don't know if it slobber it's to rich. Your jets may be worn or the needles worn?

    Something is not right.

    And I am not sure if the carbs swap?
     
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    Thank you fur your input Clem....have a good day...
     
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    Carb should swap over.
     
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    Thank you fur your input md...it did nicely...and its doin the same thing with the 266xp carb...1/2 to seat on hi and 1 3/4 to seat on low...and you can see fuel on the carb as in the picture above...could the manifold be bad...thank you...
     
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    Yea I would look at the rubber intake...the clamp as well. What's your air filter look like?

    Did you grind on this cyl? Did it leak fuel before?

    As for back pressure on the muffler that should not matter? But just for giggles pull out the screen? See if it runs better?? BUT fuel out of thE muffler like that is that it's too rich not really the screen. But it might tune better without it??? But I seriously don't think so.
     
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    Thank you fur your in put Clem...the manifold is what looks like nylon...but I am goin to check it...yes I did grind on this one...I opened the in take up a bit and the exhaust....and muffler.... IMG_20160222_190046.jpg IMG_20160222_221949.JPG IMG_20160223_123223.jpg IMG_20160222_175121.jpg it did not leak fuel be for...the air cleaner is bran new.... IMG_20160301_082125.JPG couple of comments back...I said that when I pulled the screen it did run better....I checked it a couple of times...put it on...run it...pulled it off...run it...I put a new screen on it with bigger openins... IMG_20160301_082637.JPG so I opened the exshaust deflector up.... IMG_20160228_123023.jpg IMG_20160228_124517.jpg it still runs a bit better with it off...that's what I was sayin about...I mite put another exshaust deflector to release more pressure....thank you fur your help Clem....
     
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    This is the deflector mod I did and was thinkin of doin one more on this muffler to release more back pressure... IMG_20160229_145032.jpg thank you....
     
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    I would be checking your intake real closely for a crack.

    Edit: did you put new intake gaskets on it?
     
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    Thank you fur your input redfin....I am about to pull the intake now...the intake off my 266xp should fit...no I didn't put a new one on....is this what this is.. IMG_20160301_111436.JPG it came with the kit....thank you fur your help redfin...
     
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