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Fireview Thoughts

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by HarvestMan, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. Oldhippie

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    I meant more seasoned/drier wood. I am on my first load with the cleaned cat. I noticed an immediate difference of quicker take off and then a cruise heat of 550'F . My early observations have got me thinking I need to do this maybe once or twice a year. I did a spray bottle thing with this unit. Gave me nice spray/pressure soaked it good, twice.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XN8K0M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
     
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    We have noticed a big difference especially with the cat lighting off quicker. Probably not as much difference the second time we did the cleaning but the second time was just a spraying and not the boiling bath. There could be a difference and we'll take note on what happens the next time we do the spray.
     
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    We have all 10 of the classic films! They are great and on dvd. I still remember as a child watching those movies. I think the first couple of movies we saw at a drive in theater. A real treat back in those days as our family was one with not much for funds for those things so we really felt blessed. But I think back in those days us kids got in for a dime apiece or somewhere around there. At the more local movie theater we occasionally got to go and before I turned 10 it cost me .08 to get in but then it rose to .12 after I turned 10. A real ripoff!
     
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    You actually boil the 50/50 mix and then gave it a full blown bath? Yikes! I had heard about the bath but not the boiling.

    I just did the spray and it did make a difference.
     
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    Yes, we did that Steve. If you would like the directions, I think I have them around here somewhere.
     
  6. Oldhippie

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    Dennis, if you come across them. No urgency.
     
  7. Woody Stover

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    OK, good to get some feedback that it's worth the time. Dennis, the first time when you did the bath, how many seasons do you figure you had been running the cat before you cleaned it? I have been doing mine every two years...that should be sufficient I think. I do the "full monty." Not really too much more involved than spraying but you need the right-sized stainless container to minimize the amount of solution needed, but still get the cat submerged. Not sure, maybe the spray-bottle routine is just as good.
    http://www.condar.com/combustorcleaningmanual.pdf
     
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    Woody, all those Condor directions seem to depict a ceramic cat. I doubt I could get a cord of any kind through the tight openings of the steel cat that I have. I'm wondering if that site is tryng to cover just the ceramic cats?

    Didin't read it end-to-end. :eek:
     
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    Woody, that was after only one season, between 3 and 4 cord of wood if my memory is right. Then last summer we did the spray. Giving that more thought, I have to say the bath worked better but yet the spray worked sufficiently. For the bath, I did that outdoors to keep the smell out of the house. Finding a container was not a problem but I can see where it would be for the Progress cat.

    Whichever method is used, be sure to rinse very good and then completely dry it before re-installing it. Also, I do not bolt down our cat. Even if the worst happened, which would be a big back puff, what harm would it do? Just finish that burn, reach in and put the cat back in place and all would be well.


    Steve, yes, those directions were for the ceramic cat but do the steel cat the same. And you should be able to get a cord or more though a steel cat but probably best to clean with every cord. I think we're about a cord through ours now since cleaning and if we have a warm spell, I'll probably check it.
     
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    4.42 cu feet of 8" flue wood chewing machine! Glad you like that the stove and it's keeping you warm, would love to try one sometime.
     
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    Might be a good fit in Minnesota. It's a cold fighting machine. My wife was commenting today (cold and minus 15 F) that this the warmest she's been in this house. It depends on the house for sure and with a 22 foot straight up chimney with 13 feet of double wall it fits our needs quite well. We like the hybrid aspect as we get a nice flame show when the draft is opened enough to get slow secondary burn and on top of that the cat and the heat from it. It can get down near minus 40 at times and will sure be a blessing then. It's not too crazy wood consumption wise. Our previous stove probably used as much or more during extreme cold. Your stove is called a magnum so am guessing its pretty large also. I am no expert engineer or design critic but will attempt a fair and unbiased review one of these days. I want some real serious Northern Ontario cold first just so test it fully. Peace bro!
     
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    Ha don't let Magnum Countryside fool you its a local built corn/wood pellet stove. The true magnum in this house is the Woodstock Fireview, the little rock that could. I look forward to hearing a review post on the stove.
     
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    I just threw a stainless knife in the pan to hold the cat up off the bottom for better circulation, and used a couple of stainless spoons to handle the cat....no wire.

    Yep, they say to rinse at least twice. As far as being completely dry, that is also probably an issue if you have a ceramic, maybe not so much for a steel. At any rate, it's easy enough to dry it in the oven.
     
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    Good idea with the spoons to hold the unit up. I just used a hair drier on a medium blower setting to dry mine and that worked well, also blowing out the residual water. Then just let it air dry overnight.

    It really did make a big difference in the cats performance.
     
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    I reloaded this morning, and after charring the wood I settled down into cruise mode. Airdraft setting at 1, little to no flame in the wood, but just some orange coaling in progress. I love it when the cat is working like this.

    Cat.jpg temp STT.jpg IMG_8234.JPG
     
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    You're not alone mine looks like that too only worse. I'm going to have to let the stove cool down and take some pics for Woodstock.
     
  17. HarvestMan

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    Likely not as rare after all. I too want to see what mine looks like once I get a chance to let the stove cool down. I will post a follow-up at that point.
     
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    Dennis thank for posting this.. if I understand you correctly you open pull it out and clean off f,I ash every cord and do the vinegar bath or spray once a season or is the vinegar done every cord?

    shhhhhh don't tell anyone but I review all your "pearls of wisdom" so I can appear knowledgeable :whistle:
     
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    Go ahead and read away Vermonter! Just be aware that sometimes I may throw in some baloney too. lol

    Yes, we pull the cat which is pretty simple. Naturally the manual says to let the stove go cold but we don't. We burn down most of the coals then put on the gloves and simply lift the cat out. Quite often I'll just use an old paint brush and also sort of tap the cat on the porch railing or a block of wood. If there seems to be a lot of fly ash, I'll use the canned air (Dust Off).