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Fahrenheit Endurnace 50F Project

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by BAN83, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. 343amc

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    When I tore mine apart last year, I noticed what appeared to be a sizable leak where the pot assembly mounts to the rear of the firebox (where the air intake to the pot assembly is). I put a bead of high temp RTV around the mating surface where the pot meets the back of the stove. Don't know if it made much difference, but I figured the more air directly through the fire, the better.

    The air wash on the old models isn't that great. When mine has run for a few days, I have maybe a 1" high by 5" long area of clean glass right at the bottom.

    The bottom of my burn pot has a lot of hairline cracks in it. Far as I know it is original. I may pull it out this spring and see if my father in law can fab up a new piece of stainless to replace the bottom with. He's a welder and has access to a lot of scrap material.
     
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    Make sure to use 3/16" metal but the burn pot you can get away using 1/4". My upper burn plate is thicker so I had to make modifications on the burn pot height's. I still have a dirty door glass as my modes are fruitless but I haven't given up yet. I do have a build up of ashes leaning on the door glass which is a pain to open the door without ashes falling everywhere!
     
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  3. BAN83

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    Hey, thanks for the information. If I understand correctly, I think the area in my stove (where you applied RTV) has a gasket.

    I find my air wash doesn't do a lot either. That's why I was asking if anyone knew what should go through the air wash. I was thinking about restricting it a bit to force more air to come in through the burn pot assembly.

    I second Ivanhoe's comment. If you get one made up, make it out of thicker steel. The OEM burn pots seem to be a bit light for what they are doing.
     
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    haha I know. Every time I open the door I have to vacuum up a mess.
     
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    I used a circular pad sander disk, 180 grit, and worked it -very- gently to get the worse off the upper tubes when rehabbing here. The disc is firm, yet flexible enough to form around the tube for sanding..

    re: Pellets the Francesca stove doesn't like - anything with a high or pure Pine content. ( I've tried several brands, it's the same with each, so no point listing brand names here, you guys & gals probably know them better than I do.. )

    It is purely a -stove- limitation, due to the deep burnpot, and smaller firebox. It will burn them, but I have to kick up Combustion air so high that it's pushing most heat out of the firefox, and the burnpot eventually will clog. ( It could also be the dumb-azz stove operator (me) here. Probably. )

    re: Granules LG, could have been that it was an old batch not cared for before you received, may have been high moisture content, may have been solar flare activity, lunar tidal pull, I dunno.

    Dan and Henry @ McManus have spoiled us w/ LaCretes & Olympus DF - they burn a lot better in the stove here vs. anything else, but I got a bunch of CF Pacfic and Granules LG on-hand, so I have to use what I got currently, until the Ladies are settled back in College w/ all books, etc. - new pellets are a 'discretionary' expense at the moment.

    You're making great progress there BAN, keep plugging along @ that auger and air leaks - you have great support from fellow Fahrenheit owners here. :yes:

    (Gotta go dissect our Washing Machine now. :picard:)
     
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    I keep a paint brush by the furnace. I brush the ash off the lip of the ash pan then sweep it into a bucket if the ash vac isn't handy.
     
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    That's good idea. I keep one at my Harman. I should pick another cheap one up to keep at the 50F.
     
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    I wonder what it is about pine your stove doesn't like? That's neat though, always good to know your stove characteristics. For me, I've learned that I need to go easier on new pellets. No more than 4 bags until I see how they perform!

    HAHA. If all else, blame the operator. Don't think that's the case here though. You seem to really know your stuff!

    That's nice you have good pellet options. I wish I had more options for the good pellets you guys have access to. Overall I am seeing more options around here every year so that's a plus. Ivanhoe was telling me a CT about 35 min from me has started selling Oakies.

    Good luck with your kids. How many do you have in school right now?

    And thanks. It's been a lot of work and I am thankful for all the help from everyone here on the forum and at Fahrenheit Technologies. I'll post some more updates as I move along. I was thinking, it's running well enough now that I may try to tie it into the heating ducts on Saturday if I can get parts. The weather is calling for -18 C in the next couple days. Be real nice to have it fully tied in. I'll get some sanding discs and try to get what I missed on the heat exchangers as well.

    Have fun with the dishwasher!
     
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    I like duct work pics, do take some on your install.
     
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    You will need the 10" backdraft damper(have to be ordered), 10" duct which not too many have in stock so I see it will be awhile yet before any pics pop up:D Triple's duct set up is something to be taken seriously on heat loss:thumbs:
     
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    Thanks, wish I had help though lol. The one time I asked wifey for help she got a rash. I saw her grab the fiberglass barehanded:doh:.
    I tried to warn her but too late lol. Itchy for hours even after cold water lol.
     
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    (2) girls, a sophomore and junior in college. Wife and I are very blessed, they consistently achieve High Honors / Dean's List grades, both are employed for work-study, each have great staff/mentors/support on campus, have received sizable financial assistance on their own grades/merits, and they enjoy attending their schools in-state - both have earned our continued assistance & support. :yes:

    My wife would have a very different opinion of that statement.. :D But Thanks, I learn something new each time I visit, Glad the info. gleaned on our tiny stove here has been useful to you. :yes:

    * Walmart sells small plastic scrapers in their Home Improvement / Paint dept. - they are pretty flexible, may want to keep an eye out for one of those / try one w/ some emery cloth or sandpaper wrapped around the tip to try to get at the carbon on the top tubes also.

    Getting much colder & seasonable here also in temps., time to get busy again. Good luck w/ the ducting install !
     
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    I believe there is a gasket there and it should be a sealed location.

    As for the air wash, I used to cover mine with a piece of high temp foil tape and cut a small slit with a knife in it (before all my mods). This allows a little more air through the burn pot and does help the burn. The air wash still sucks even with a good running furnace with good flow.
     
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    You know it. I've never it done it before, so can't promise it will turn out well lol. If you guys have any tips I'm all ears.
     
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    Thanks Ivan. I'm heading out tomorrow to see what I can find for parts. I might just see about doing a rough hookup to see how the unit works. We'll see what happens when I get going tomorrow haha :hair:

    I have a guy I know that does HVAC so I'm actually temped just to call him next week to come do the install. :emb:
     
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    Do you have pics on here of your duct connections?
     
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    Right on, congratulations. You and your wife did a great job raising your girls.:thumbs:

    LOL Yes, well my g/f wonders about my endeavours into the stoves as well. I agree, always learning something here.

    Thanks, I'll go in search of something I can wrap around and get to the bottom of the upper tubes.

    Yeah, I think a bit of winter is finally setting in all over!
     
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    Yeah, it only makes sense that there has to be something to seal this area.

    Hmm. Might just leave the air wash as it is then.... for now. I have some ideas how to make it work better.

    I'm really noticing with the colder weather right now that the chimney seems to be drawing a lot better. The colder it gets outside the more the natural draw probably aids in the performance of the stove. Or I could just be imagining it all LOL. :wacky:Spending too many house watching the flames may have gotten to me.
     
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    You have to do a search to last year for pics on Triple's tread. Meanwhile I will look into it.
     
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    Newbie... Need Install Advice For Farenheit Endurance | Page 11 | Firewood Hoarders Club

    Duct pics start from page 11, the vent solid concrete hole nightmare was earlier pages.

    Any questions just ask, oh and I used a manual damper from furnace duct to house duct to close off for summer when I turn on central Ac . I didn't want to pay to cool down the furnace.
    You can get a backdraft which is a flap that swings in the direction of airflow only one way,Like a check valve. It's automatic but maybe a little more money? Not sure cause I didn't look into it.
    For the main trunk that comes off of furnace
    I made a auto flap door that's tape hinged on one side. It's sits flat in winter not allowing any hot air into oil furnace. But in summer when central Ac blower kicks on, the door flaps up with that big ol 2000cfm blower and stays up until the blower shuts off, then it falls down.

    These are very Important to not lose heat in winter, and not lose AC in summer. It was a puzzler for me but with guys on here giving ideas and getting creative you can come up with what works for your setup.
     
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