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Trying to decide on what new stove to get

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Bret Hart, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. bushpilot

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    I would talk with the folks at Englander about the 8 inch chimney, and do what they say. Logic says "bigger is better, so 8 inches is better than 6," but that is not correct when chimney sizing. They have to be "rightsized."

    Greg
     
  2. Machria

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    Oh man, that is a REALLY BAD question to ask around here!! They will have you in bankruptcy court in no time! You'll need at least 2 new sheds just to house all the new tools you'll be buying!! ;)

    Good luck with the new stove!!!!
     
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    How tall is your chimney? Unless it is really tall, 8" probably isn't gonna cut it.
    To answer your question though, the further you can go 6" the better.
    I have a stove that is meant for a 6" chimney running on a 8" chimney, it is not ideal for sure. Crappy draft unless is is pretty cold out, smokes out the door on reloads, low BTU output once the secondary burn is done. I am fully aware this is all from too big chimney. My plan is to drop a un-insulated 6" liner inside the insulated 8" liner, problem solved. Kind of a "superinsulated liner" :whistle:
    My suggestion is to do it right to begin with, save yourself the frustration of "problems with this new stove". Remember, the chimney is the engine that drives the stove...
     
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  4. HDRock

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    NC30 is a good choice.
    Definitely go 6 inches from the stove to the ceiling, that's how mine is set with my 8 inch chimney, I have a total of a 15 and a half feet straight up, draft is good, I don't have any problem with smoke coming out during reloads or anything .
    All the research I did before I installed the current stove said that's the way to go and will give you a better draft, there are people on the other form also that have 8 inch chimneys and all are set up with six inch stove pipe, theirs and mine all work good, if I remember right I think a couple of those people have NC 30's, maybe mike holton will chime in here and give his professional opinion.

    Whether you are using single wall or double wall, I suggest you get a telescoping stove pipe for easier install
     
  5. HDRock

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    I assume that your chimney is already three feet above the highest point on your roof, is that right?
     
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    Well said Bren!
     
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  7. SolarandWood

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    Fwiw your wife will rarely if ever touch anything other than maybe the tstat on a king unless you are gone for days at a time.
     
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    Pretty sure the chimney is 13' and a few inches off the top of the stove. Been a few years since I installed it but I know its over 13'.

    Planned on the telescoping stove pipe.

    Chimney cap is right at 3' above ridge and more than 10' away.

    S&W - I was all set to get the BK but I'm taking one for the team. I got the GMC, Kubota, equipment trailer, and tons of tools and supplies for the shop this year. Mama gets a vacation and I get a big upgrade in a stove.
     
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    Personally I think you should use a 6" liner for better draft and less creosote plus less smoke spillage when opening the door..
     
  10. Bret Hart

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    Just reread my last post. Looks like she's been taking one for the team all along. That's my girl.
     
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    So, slide 6" stove pipe inside the 8" class A???
     
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    If it fits I suppose you could do that.. What do the experts think about this?
     
  13. chance04

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    Not an expert, but it meets clearances and would be insulated by default. Run with it
     
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    Correct
     
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    If it's 13', I'd lay some pretty good odds against that working as an 8", might be tight as a 6", 15' is usually considered a bare minimum height for modern stoves. But since it sounds like it is a straight up chimney, that helps, 90* bends in chimney pipe are hard on draft.
    I hadn't thought of your stove pipe inside of the chimney idea, but that sounds like a simple/easy solution since you have a straight up chimney. :thumbs: Might hafta get a clamp on chimney liner top plate to seal the gap and "hang" the pipe up top...
     
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    Oversized flue pipe not a good idea..
     
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    Oh OK sorry didn't realize was placing 6" inside of 8" yup great idea..
     
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    If he uses a 6 inch liner run down through the 8 inch class a it isn't oversized any longer
     
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    I shoulda read down farther lol
     
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