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Pre Season Prep, Anyone Else Getting Ready?

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  1. jatoxico

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    So I ran the Soot Eater up the chimney today and gave the unit the once over. Vacuumed out the fans and vent, gave the glass a good cleaning. Got about 16 oz of brown fines. Used to get black crunchies but much better since adding a block plate and insulating.

    First pic is from today second is what I used to get.
     

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    I think, based on your description, the pics are backazzwards.
    I need to run the vacuum on the blower. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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    No not backwards. The first pic is fine brown fluffy from today. The second is just a small amount of the black shiny crunchy stuff I was getting in the past but there was plenty more of it! Had worse actually. Never any glaze-sote but not great. Thought I had a pic of an entire cleanings worth of the crunchy crap but can't find it :emb:.
     
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    Ah, ok. Brown fluffy is gooder than black crunchy. You betcha.
    I used to get quite a bit of the BC stuff, now not so much.
     
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    How 'bout these chunks of nastiness from a few years back! What a newb!
     

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    Last 3-4 feet of my block/flue tile lined chimney got a little of this last season, when temps hovered at or below 0 for a few days.... Our stove is inefficient, and since my wife and I are gone at least 9 hrs(same part of the day), we have restarts often, almost every evening.... Spring and summer rains plus summer sun break it all up and terra cotta is clean by September....
    Be nice to be able to afford cat stove and SS liner.... Ah, one day.
    I like the lack of output from your stove, J:yes:
     
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    Yeah cold starts are tough. Have to do a lot too. Made changes in my system that helped my exterior chimney quite a bit and I don't chase burn times as much as I used to. Keep thinking one day I'd like to put a temp monitor at the top of the stack and regulate air based on exhaust temp, keeping it above creo condensation temp of about 240 I think. Either that or sweep a couple times a year! :)
     
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    I'm right there with ya on monitoring top temp! I've thought about bringing some kind of insulation system to that exposed chimney section... I have a ceramic fiber blanket rated 2300F I could wrap the chimney block with, maybe protect that with a sheet metal wrap....
    Thoughts?
     
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    Pop some pics on there are some smart people here. Even if you can't do anything with the exposed block maybe you can do something down below to send the hottest gases you can up to minimize the problem.
    How is your stove connected to the clay tile? Can you insulate in and around smoke shelf or just into chimney with thimble?
     
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    I'll try to tomorrow... An insulated flue to the chimney might be a start....
     
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    Consequently, no smoke shelf in this wonderwood style stove....
     
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    I used to have that problem too with my Quad. I am away 11 hours. I spent a pile of money insulating and replacing windows. Then I got the Ideal Steel. The problem totally went away. The house holds the heat and the Ideal Steel still offers me tons of hot coals. It was hard to trust at first, but it never let me down.
     
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    Good you're on top of it and not oblivious so if an extra sweep is needed you do it. If you are getting enough heat out of the unit and don't need the heat from the pipe I'd go for it. Better to heat with the stove and not with the pipe IMO.
     
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    With the physical problems I've had this year, the stove never received its annual cleaning....until yesterday. Now we're good to go. We did have to clean the cat as we had noticed with some fires this year we had smoke from the chimney. Started a fire just a little bit ago. As soon as the cat was engaged, no more smoke. That is how it should be.
     
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    Nice when everything is back in tip top working order. What do you use to sweep BW? I have about 27' that I use a soot eater on but sometimes the dust is a bit rough doing a bottom up job.

    This time I ran the shop vac and blew all the fine dust right out the door but tough to do mid-season. Based on last couple years I may skip the mid-season cleaning.
     
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    Been doing a mid-season sometime in January last three years and been improving each year as the wood and my technique improves. Nice knowing I can probably go a bit longer if the weather doesn't co-operate.
     
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    Believe it or not, I don't clean the chimney. My wife does that! Now that should make a lot of ladies cringe!

    Our flue runs through the wall then SS up the side of the house. She just removes the bottom cap and runs the poly brush up to top then back down. Does this twice then puts the brush away. Takes only a few minutes but ours does not have to be done very often because of a super clean burning stove.

    I've heard good things about the soot eaters but I have imagined a dust problem when using them. Can you put a filter in the shop vac? Or a bag?
     
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    Alright, you are now officially my hero.

    Soot Eater works good and saves me from having to take off the cap not to mention stand on a high roof. Dust can be a bit of a problem. It helps to be deliberate in your movements like when shoveling ash but a certain amount of dust is inevitable. This time I stuck the rigid sections of the hose in the suction side of the shop vac and positioned them right in front of the door. I left the filter in but stuck the flexible hose section out the door for good measure. Worked good.
     
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    Glad that works well for you. Standing on a steep roof or even a high one is not my idea of fun either. Well, after getting vertigo, they don't want me climbing anyway. However, I can still sneak in some climbing if necessary. ;)
     
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