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Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Geek, Oct 10, 2015.

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  1. ttdberg

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    I would say "Hi" back, and welcome you to the forum, but you were only speaking to the Old Fellas, not the old ladies, so I guess I won't. :p:whistle::handshake:
     
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    This year's ThermaGlows are very dark and more ashy than I remember from last year. And considering that I burned the Currans (spit, hack, spit) that was left in the hopper from last year first - that is saying something. However, the TG's were cheaper for me to buy this year than the Curran's cost me last year, and they seem to be throwing decent heat, so I'm still ahead of the game.

    If I remember I'll get a couple of bags of Chows to compare.
     
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    I did buy a couple bags of Platinum.
    Started stove last night and been running on 2, but as I type (10 hours later) I can see that the pellets are starting to bunch up in the burn pot, not as bad as with the other pellets but still I can see that the flame is going lazy....:hair::hair::hair:
     
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    Is there any service guy on this forum local to me that may know this stove?
    Either there's gotta be something wrong with the air on this unit that can be addressed to make it run much better, OR this is a real PS..!!! :picard:
     
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    What does the burn pot or liner look like? Can you plug some of the holes up higher in the pot?

    Air above the pellets won't help combustion. If you can close up some of the upper holes (high temp 3M foil) or stove/furnace cement will work well. I did this to my Fahrenheit Endurance 50F pellet furnace.

    The pot on the furnace is square, but you can see how I closed off some to back of the pot with furnace cement. It holds for years.



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    wow, you covered a lot.
    The burn pot on this unit is more rounded, will post a picture once cooled down.
    There seems like if air flow is adequate coming from the bottom of the pot but no matter what pellets I burn there's always clinker/cake formation which is what causes pellets to start bunching up and flame getting lazy to the point that I have to clean with just a few hours of running.....driving me nuts.
     
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    Assuming the stove is clean and there isn't air bypassing the burnpot, have you thought of upgrading the combustion blower or the impeller blade?
     
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    Good question, has this been a proven correction to this brand or any other stove brand?
    If so, I'm willing to try the option. Which one would be better and what costs do these have?

    I use a big power vacuum and clean from outside. Stove is clean and when I clean the burn pot and then run the stove you can see how vibrant is the flame and very good air flow flowing upwards.
     
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    Hey Geek, how's that leaf blower treating you these days? :)
     
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    I thought that stove would have burned better with softies. One thing I would check is how the pot seats in its holder and if air is getting around it? Should have a tell tail clean spot around the pot if it is.

    Then I'd try some free fixes before money is spent. Like sealing up the holes higher in the burnpot so the lower holes have more umph(flow to keep them cleared). Sealing any leakes around the burnpot(where it sits in its holder) or below it if there is any(inside chamber where the air flow's to the burnpot up through the chasis). The more air you get to the pot should help issues.

    I know there isn't a damper on this unit, But maybe there is a choke in the inlet side of the air passage that is restricting things?

    Next I'd see what a blower wheel upgrade might do. Or enlarge the holes in the burnpot a drill size or two above factory. Thats what most stove manufactoures do for the high ash burnpots.

    I don't remember if you installed an oak or not??? Also some pic's of the burnpot would help us for idea's. Take a least one of it in the stove and how the ash settles around it.
     
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    It seems like a lot... But...

    If you look at the 1st pic, there is 2 different pieces. The front and back (top of pic) of the pot. The final pic is just the back. I only covered 2 rows of holes in that part of the pot. The other part in the first pic has 50+ holes. The furnace pot has 4 pieces. The back, the front, and the bottom 2 liners. Between the 4 pieces there is probably 200 + holes. So to cover 40 of them, isn't much at all.

    Now if your pot only has 20 holes, then covering 4 will give about the same return (20%).

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Picked up 4 bags of Chows. First impression after opening the bags and pouring them in the hopper:
    1. The Chows are very uniform in length (3/4" or so). The Therma-Glo's vary widely from 1/2" to 1.5" (or more)
    2. The Chows are lighter in color than the TG's
    Sorry, that isn't really useful info unless your stove is picky about pellet size and/or consistancy. I have heard the P43 groan a couple times breaking up a super long pellet. The P43 should get to burning the Chows tomorrow night, so will report back after that.
     
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    I will take a picture later this afternoon and post, yeah I think this one has about 20 holes, will double check.

    I'm interested in hearing more about replacing the exhaust blower and/or impeller.....any more feedback on that would be great...

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    Hey guys, where would you get a 1.75 amp Gleason Avery exhaust blower and Large 11 Petal impellers for this Napoleon NPS45?
     
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    Here's a picture of the burn pot from the manufacturer's website..
     

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