First fire in the Beta Ideal Steel Woodstock stove

Sure BBAR. I'm not sure when I can do that but I'll try to get that for you sometime over the next week.

Last night I came back downstairs and stared at those amazing secondaries for about a half hour while praying. My mind was wandering ...I have a friend who is a professional photographer for a company that does print and video ads.

It would be so cool to set up a camera just after dark with a time lapse series of photos from reload to coals.

I'm going to ask him if he is game.

 

I asked Tom at Woodstock about surface temps of combustibles. His reply put my mind at ease:

When we test to UL, the limit for an unprotected surface is 117 degrees F above ambient for an unprotected surface. If your room temperature was 70 degrees, your temps are OK up until 187 degrees. On the UL Flash Fire test,the limit is even higher. So I think you are OK at 130-140. We are usually much more conservative than the test allows, and we wouldn’t want to go over 150 even if it is allowed, but I think you are OK.
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I'm still going to bring the stove forward into the room another 3 or 4 inches just for peace of mind and to help throw more heat into my dining room.

 

Nothing like a little peace of mind when it comes to this.
I'll be curious what the final clearances you end up with this stove, with or without a heat shield.
I'm also curious as to the heat cycle, load and run, then re-load. If after a few months, when you have developed a reliable pattern with "X" types of wood, if you have it laying around- I'd love to see you try a few burns with nothing but Pine. This would be an immense help.
Thanks BrianK, keep it up.

 

I'd be happy to but ...

Honestly I don't know where I'd find CSS seasoned pine to burn around here beetle. Let me ask around.

 

I get 2.979

 

How can you come up with that if you do not know the angle in which the firebox tapers down?

 

How far away are you from Doylestown? I have several cords that are dry, cut, and stacked.

 

Its 12.53 deg. But I didn't use that. I figured a 4x18 right triangle on top of a 18x11 rectangle.

 

BBar- it's fairly easy to figure out the angle, just need a ruler (scale) and a protractor. I haven't bothered to get a dead-nuts angle, but it shouldn't be too tough.
The width is 22", don't need to worry about that right now.
Plan view (side)- 18" deep, back is 11", front is 15" at andirons. You could get close drawing this out on an 8 x 11 sheet of paper, using 1" = 1/4" scale.
I'll bet fox9988 is really close on the actual usable measurements, but going from back of box to glass is closer to the 3.2 measurement. If I get the chance tomorrow, I'll scale it and see for sure.
edit- I would need to know the distance from the face of the andirons to glass, I'll guess at 1/2".

 

I usually use a construction calculator, couldn't find my spare and the other is outside so I used an online calculator.
Is it supposed to be 3.2? I thought the rumor was 3.5.

 

3.5 would be great, but I've only seen 3.2 CF as the capacity.

 

Well, color me wrong. Thought without knowing the angle it would have been tough to get an accurate measurement.

 

Here's a really rough calc., based on fox's number of 2.98. Add the 1/2" for the steel in the andirons, plus 1/2" clearance to glass = 1". Then go 15.5" (est.) to top of glass. Rough the number to 1" square (that 12.53 degree is not all that relevant, as far as loss of space).
15.5" x 1" x 22" = 341". Divide by 1728" (12 x 12 x 12) = .1973
So, - fox9988 2.98 CF + .198 CF = 3.178 CF. This is rough, but close enough for me to not worry about it.
I'll call this stove as 3 CF. usable, with a 3.2 CF max. I'm still good with this.

 

The secondary air plate that forms the roof of the firebox ends about 7" from the front of the stove and the flue gases exhaust in the front top of the firebox into the channel that holds the catalyst. So the actual angle of the roof of the firebox probably hasn't been properly calculated yet here.

 

The roof of the firebox starts about 7" back from the andirons/door. So the rise from 11" at the rear to 15" is steeper. The space in between is open for the smoke path to the cat.

 

Brian your going to have to fill it up with water, measure the water in gallons, and let us try to convert the gallons to cubic feet

 

Hey, it's been too long since I took Geometry to figure this stuff out

Here's a better illustrated explanation of what I was describing.

 

Four hours. That's a long way to go for pine.

 

Any mention from WS about leaving an air space at the top for secondary action?

 

Two inches if I remember correctly.