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Anyone burning the progress hybrid in this subzero snap?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by jdonna, Jan 5, 2015.

  1. Machria

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    Lol!

    I have an office in Mississauga... But haven't visited in a few years.

    I'm out east on the island. But my wife's grandmother still lives in the famous Levitown houses behind the old Gruman blogs, I'm sure you know that area.

    In my next life, I want to live in Whistler Canada. ;).
     
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    I pulled up next to this on the way down the hill from the Whistler area this summer...
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    (oh, and my PH is cranking away as the temp falls, expecting another night below zero)
     
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    Oh mama!!! I woulda hijacked that truck and drove it home!!!

    What were ya doing at Whistler in the summer? I have herd that they have more summer visitors than winter visitors, which is amazing considering it's a Ski resort.

    LOVE that place! But then again, I also LOVE Killington you lucky bastard! ;)
     
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    Machria

    Was your stove rebuilt by WS with the reinforced fireback? Is your fireback separated/warped in the area of the blown secondary gasket? just wondering if that might have led to the blown gasket.
     
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    I had a week-long conference in Vancouver with a Wednesday afternoon off, so I rented a car and headed for the hills. Ended up seeing three waterfalls and a bunch of pretty country. Wife says Killington claims a new foot of snow over the weekend - we are down at 600' and got mostly rain. Our kids used to ski at Okemo through the school program and my wife would get free passes for helping teach/supervise.

    Regarding the post above from fire_man, I've also been curious about your gasket troubles.
     
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    I don't know if they "re-Inforced the fireback", but they did "upgrade it" to solve the leak issue back then (summer of 2013). I wasn't in town when they did it, so I don't know exactly what they did. But I know they replaced the stainless plate (secondary plate) among other things. That made my stove run better, more controllable, so it was obviously leaking a tad prior to the upgrade. But that didn't solve my smoke smell issue, the door gasket fix did. That is replacing the door gasket as well as adding the little metal plate on the hinge side and swapping the two bolts out. Took 10 minutes and fixed the smoke smell.

    The gasket I referred to above was just a little gasket that goes around the secondary air intake (center intake). It just came loose and was hanging down. No biggie, just replaced it with some stove cement and a new gasket they sent, and put the back intake panel back on. All good, running great since.
     
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    The fireback is the stainless plate you are referring to. The reinforced one has an extra metal plate welded along it's edge where it used to warp.You can see it inside the firebox in the back.

    I replaced my door gasket, and it did reduce a smoke smell, but I also added 2' of flue so that may have also helped.
     
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    You also added the metal "cap" that fits along the hing side of the door, right? I did the door "gasket upgrade" all by itself (no other changes), and it stopped the smoke smell 100% for me. So that was the issue.
     
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    I did not add the metal cap. It made no sense to me how it could possibly do anything - something about preventing a "chimney effect" at the hinge.

    I replaced the original gasket with another non-compressible white gasket (not the soft fluffy one in the new door gasket kit).
    I also replaced the bolts for the door frame using new ones from the door gasket kit - and added 2' of flue.

    The Smoke smell has been gone.
     
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    You should do it, takes 2 seconds to pop it on. Makes a lot of sense actually, if you look at that, there is a hollow channel running the length of the door there, and at the top and bottom is each hinge (aka possible leak point). So the hollow channel could act as a chimney and get air flowing thru there, forcing it to leak... Can't hurt anyway!
     
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    I must be missing something- how is the hinge a possible leak point? The hinges and hollow channel are both completely outside the door gasket. The only entry point into the stove other than around the gasket is the door frame mounting bolts.

    True, it can't hurt, but my smoke smell is gone anyway.
     
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    Are the new PHs still having issues with the smoke smell? Curious as we're thinking of pulling the trigger on one this summer.

    Sherwood- Any chance of posting some more pics of your PH? I'm liking the light grey.
     
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    Since they figured it out and fixed it on old ones, I'm sure the new ones are fixed as well. And, not all people experienced it, only some of us. For me, it was not that big a deal, there was just a bit of smell sometimes, and you had to often go right up to the stove to smell it. As some have said in the past, common, your burning wood, your going to smell some wood burning. ;)

    I'm staring at my PH burning right now, it's 35 out so I loaded about 1 hour ago with some softwoods, pine, cedar and some sassofrass to keep the BTU's down low. Anyway, it is burning absolutely beautifully! I love this stove. I'm a very detailed oriented and you could say "picky" guy. I would not hesitate for 1 second to recommend the PH to anyone, and if I were moving into a new/different house, the very first thing I would do is install a new PH in it.

    Wish I could say the same for some of the other inks I own, like my Mini CooperS that is in the shop with what looks like a blown motor! It's got 62k on it, just over the warranty and mini doesn't care most likely. $8,000 later I might get my car back. :hair:
     
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    And here is a pic from just now.... Hard to beat when you throw in that that 750lb piece of soapstone art is also heating my house!!!

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    Me too on both counts! The Progress is a great stove.
    Is that a speaker directly behind your stove?

    Sorry to hear about the cooper, that stinks. It just ain't right at 65K for a motor to blow - bad oil pump or what??
     
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    We have about 1650 sq ft. Do you think the PH would be too much fire power or could we easily dial it down? The Keystone struggles to keep up when its below freezing and we'd definitely like it a few degrees warmer in here, but don't want to get blasted out of here.
     
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    We had the exact same problem with the Fireview heating 2300 sq ft so we replaced it with the Progress. That worked MUCH better, but we still were cold during Arctic outbreaks so we added the Palladian and are now perfect.

    The trick to not getting blasted out is to run smaller loads, but make sure you have a good draft (tall flue). My 15' Progress flue backpuffed on small loads. I added 2' and it's much better.
     
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    Behind? Not sure what your looking at? Maybe the fan on the right side which is spinning?

    The only speaker in pic is at the top left of pic, wall mounted.

    No, no oil problem at all. Head is fine, no warping... BUT it's got 0 compression in 1 cyl, and very low compression in the other 3 cyl's. Valves all look fine. They can't figure out what's wrong.... Weird....

    As fireman said, you will just need to do small loads in warmer weather. Mine is on my top floor which is 1200 sq feet with cathedral ceilings, and it can be a bit much if I'm not careful with load and don't shut it down quick enough. Our bedrooms are on the floor below, so I suck hot air from above the stove and blow it down into bedroom below via a 4" duct and inline fan. That keeps our bedroom in the 60's at night which is perfect, while the great room stays in 80's on the overnight burn (aka full load burning).

    But when it is in the low teens or single digits, I load her up, set to cruise and we are toasty warm and can even crack a window or 2, while everyone else (neighbors...) is bitching they can't get there homes warm enough. So the firepower is nice to have.

    I have somewhere between a 12 and 15 flue straight up from top of stove, I don't have any issues at all with running small loads. Got a tiny load running right now.
     
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    yup its a spinning fan. Looks kind of like the smaller speaker in the top left of the photo :loco: :crazy:.

    Funny how some can get away with 15' flue and others struggle. Mine is an insulated 6" SS in an exterior chimney.
     
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    Could be the difference. Mine is all interior except for the last 2 or 3'