Good description of secondary burn?

Better not keep talking "dirty" like that or you'll get "moderated"!!!

 

What's your stove top temp when your pipe is at 850

 

I see I can run mine hard to with blower on high

 

WOW I thought mine was hot at 650... I have two magnetic temp gauges, being that mine is an insert I can only read the flue right at the stove outlet and on the face of the soave, right by the door. For a normal hot burn is 600-650 and if I'm really trying to crank it, it hits 675-700. Stove face temp is normally 300ish at 600 outlet temps, 350 at 650-675.

After having wood smoke dragons my whole life, anything over 500 on the black pipe would make it glow, so when i lit it the first time following the manual and online advice and temps, i freaked out. Dad was over when I lit it and he thought the liner was going to melt when it got to 600. i've never told him with a load of good dry oak or hedge really cranking it hits 675-700. it had me very uneasy leaving the house the first couple times just because it was so much hotter than every other stove I've ever had or used.

 

Reading the flue temp that close to the stove will be a little misleading, if you have ever read the flue with an IR tester the temps drop off quickly as you go up the pipe.

 

Dexter's 850 reading is with a probe thermometer, measuring the temp on the inside of the pipe above the stove, not on the surface so that's a big difference

 

The drier the wood the better, because it will burn hotter which will allow more off-gassing from the wood. One thing I have noticed is that I get secondaries way easier from hard wood vs. soft wood. If I throw in a load of pine the wood just seems to take off in a hurry and it is the wood that is burning instead of the gases. If I load with oak then I get a much better and very visual secondary burn - gas flames coming out of all the holes on the tubes.

 

Yes I have, one foot up it drops almost 100 degrees. I can't measure any higher up due to the insert..

 

I thought you guys might enjoy this view of secondaries in my stove. It's a bit different, but still has that "secondary" look of gasses burning separate from the fuel.

 

that's darn cool!
what stove is that/?

 

Thank you, it's a home made thingy. It's a work in progress, that clip is me playing with secondary air configurations. I thought it looked cool, so I shot it, and it turns out it does a good job of illustrating the concept of burning the gasses separate from the wood. I hope it's helpful.

 

from the initial post above.

one thing with non-cats is to make sure you leave room in the top of the firebox to allow secondaries. if its loaded all the way to the tubes or close to that the secondary air gets diffues around the wood , doesnt generally give good secondaries.

try a load no higher than the top of the bricks see if secondaries improve with some space up there to burn freely

 

Seems when I load all I can fit through the door on the PH it still leaves a few inches for secondaries, looks like I could easily fit another split or two if I played around with it but I've been leaving it as is and getting beautiful secondaries. I assume they did that on purpose. I loaded at 1 and I'm still getting nice secondaries at 5.

 

Seconaries can look much different. Even in the same stove. One of my favorite's from the Woodstock Keystone. Volume down

 

They can look different in the same load. I've had the rollers and jets and once the load was burned down I get some like the keystone video.