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whats the new famdangled oil to use these days?

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Freakingstang, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. Sunfish

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    I used to use the stihl orange bottle oil for no reason in particular. I tried the husqvarna xp oil after I got some with a saw and gave the stihl stuff away. It wasn't until then that I realized just how bad the stihl oil stink. I like using oil that has stabilizer in it since you can't get anything other than 10% ethanol around here and sometimes a saw or blower sits a while between uses.
     
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    Some Husky's really do appreciate 40:1 or 32:1 mixes for extra lube in the bottom ends.
     
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    I don't like discussing mix ratios because it becomes peepee measuring contests with some. I run 40:1, just because I have since I worked tree service in the 90's and thats what we ran before epa changed to 50:1. If a saw is ported and it runs higher rpm, it is a good idea to go a little more on the oil, but then you have to retune for it.
     
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    I would consider running it at 2 packs a gallon. I know a few guys run it with success in n work saws that are used falling daily out west.
     
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    Before I actually knew much about saws I just figured that all 2 smoke oil was the same. I had a 96' Formula Z 583 and always had a gallon of Klotz Super Techniplate or Polaris VES Gold layin around so that's what I used.
    Never measured either.....just dumped oil in till the color looked right.
    Never blew anything up, but my Eager Beaver acted funny on some mix I made one time :)

    By the way, both oils smell super yummy especially the VES Gold
     
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    I've started mixing 32:1 now that I buy the oil by the gallon.

    I have a two gallon gas can and a few 8 0z mason jars that I fill with oil. That way there is no measuring. One full jar with one full can of gas.
     
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    Thanks MM - I've somehow evolved to a mostly Husq line of keeper saws - if you think more oil is good I'll do it. 40:1 or 32:1 with the Belray- what you you mix? Cheers!
     
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    I personally run 40:1 but not with BelRay. I do believe that some oils like to be mixed heavier, I've heard that 32:1 is the recommendation if you are running the BelRay. Also, modified saws need more oil as the bottom ends see more stress for sure. Nobody I know of has destroyed a saw with too much oil. :thumbs:
     
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    Didn't you run some at 100:1 ? Then you noticed some bearing wear .
    Forget the original post, was it the Amsoil racing 2-cycle Dominator ?
     
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    It was Mastermind that posted the ArboristSite thread about a Ported Stihl 066 that destroyed the bottom end running AMSOIL Saber Pro at 80:1.

    I have run AMSOIL Sabre Pro at 80:1 in stock equipment. I would never recommend trying it in a modified saw. It works well in many applications that do not turn the rpms a high-performance professional grade saw sees but even AMSOIL does not recommend 100:1 for "racing" or "commercial" applications. I consider any engine that typically turns 10K rpm under load a racing engine. Most modern pro-grade saws easily fit that description. Sabre Pro is a fine oil but knowing what I know about small engines and the conditions they see, I just can't recommend anything leaner than 50:1. And that goes for anybody's oil, not just AMSOIL.
     
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    Yea
    a little extra oil never hurt a thing :)

    Had a yamaha outboard, fuel mix recommended was 100:1 .
    Ran great on 50:1 :)
    Outboards mostly going 4 cycle now, many waters require 4-stroke.
    Thru the prop exhaust, with no oil, better for the fish :)
     
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    Bought a few more qts of Lucas yesterday. Need to see if they can order it in galon jugs
     
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    unless you are going through 10-15 gallons of mix every couple of weeks, I wouldn't buy gallon oil jugs. i wouldn't risk the chance of it collecting moisture. A quart will last a while feeding a few saws...
     
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    I go through a fair bet of mix this time of year. I also keep my oil & mix can in a dry heated shop,
    so I'm not worried about collecting any moisture. But you do make a good point.
     
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    synthetic oils attract moisture, its just the nature of the beast. I see that on my service truck with HIGH dollar compressor oils once you open it, its basically useless unless you use it within a very short time frame. not 10-12 dollar bottles of oil, stuff that is 5K a 55gal drum
     
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    Well, maybe best just to stay with the quarts. Likely not much savings by the gallon anyway...:pete:
     
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    I run my junk a lot... I bought a case of quarts about 4 yeas ago... other than a few 2 gal mix bottles here and there, I still have half that case... its cheaper by the case than the bottle...
     
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    Any of these synthetic oils mixed at 32/40:1 will be fine in anything.
     
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