Chinese Stihl 070 knockoff

That is correct... It should run fat...

Still not sure as to the "why" anyone would want to have to go through the hastle of chasing the alcohol out of a work saw...
A race saw, sure... But a worker??

 

Your supplying 20-25% more fuel with a unmodified carb on a craftsman saw...yes I still smell the 1066

 

I only do that if I don't plan on using the saw for more than 2 weeks, but I only messed with it once so I don't know if I'll be running the saw again until the summer, or just switching back to pump gas

 

Do own the saw in question? We already know you have no experience with E85 so are talking from where exactly? Oh yeah the place that fills that 1066.

 

I read that... what I said HMMM about was not having to mod the carb for 25% minimum more fuel on E85? most carbs sized for whatever engine won't flow enough to support the volume E85 needs without installing a larger carb, or drilling it out. with more fuel you need more air. so hmmm was about that, not about flushing the lines out. although at partial throttle or idle, not sure, unless you are running it WOT with your splash.

I agree, for a work saw it sounds like a serious pita, but a play saw, it could see huge gains, if done properly. but having it set up ideally for corn isn't going to be very optimal on pump gas, not unless retuning and retarding timing is a quick fun thing for you to do.

 

And if a person wants to feed more fuel and see real gains, an oxygenator additive is used in race saw blends...

 

I do not nor would I have the saw in question. I do not have any experience with E85. I would rather eat food not burn it.

I have experienced you starting threads on this section IMHO looking for a argument but then not proving anything.

 

The only reason I responded to this thread was because the OP quoted a knowledgeable member out of a different thread into this one. It was uncalled for and out of line. Do your own test and give us feedback. That 1066 is still overwhelming. I call BS

 

I look at it like a novelty, rather than a legitimate option..

 

instead of turning this into an A-site thread (understandable with the animosity already exhibited)

Is it possible we search for positive alternatives for a milling saw? There are a bunch of old saws out there that will serve you well Augie - no need to go for a knockoff saw with technology 40-50+yo

This saw regardless of chain sharpness will be slow and shake you to pieces - just cause it's "new" don't mean the tech in the saw is any better than what was built in the original.

Seriously ask for input on the old mag saws that have grunt for a mill - might have a few more bills in one but if needed they will come back to you...real stihls hold their value

 

This is good advice

If you just want the 070 for the sake of science and the heck of it, I'd say go for it. I'm interested in seeing one. But if you really just need a saw that you can hook into your mill and go to work, you may be better served spending a bit more upfront for a used saw that'll be more comfortable to use, more reliable, and likely better built. I would imagine that increased initial investment would payoff over the years if you plan on milling a lot

 

I passed on a decent 056 a while back. Not minty but not beat. I do think it was $375 with an original old stihl like 28/32" bar. Just didnt need it since I own a 650.

 

I've been keeping up on this thread and I'm glad it (apparently) has taken a better path. So, I figured I would throw some of my cents out for the heck of it...

I have no experience running or even inspecting a Chinese knock-off Stihl. I'm a huge fan of the 1106 series Stihl saws for novelty/collector purposes, so I have read a lot about the counterfeits. I think your approach is sound; pull it apart and check things out before going balls to the wall. I also think your statements about potentially good quality soiled by poor quality control are also sound. Bottom line is that they will never equal the quality of the original for many reasons (e.g. poorly trained employees, inferior materials, insufficient/nonexistent R&D, low-cost manufacturing by design, etc.), but that doesn't mean they're a waste of time & money as long as one understands and accepts what they're getting into. Frankly, in my opinion it's no different than buying a big box store chainsaw of virtually any brand.

Because I love running my 070/090 saws for recreation and have always been curious about how the knock-offs compare I've been tempted more than once to buy one. I have never pulled the trigger though because I strive to minimize purchases of any new imported items and have never come across a good used one.

Now, regarding what the folks are saying about seeking out other options; with a heavy heart I would have to agree that it's worth looking into. The 070's are physically large, heavy, slow, and loud. However, I don't know the first thing about milling, so I would pose one question; does the quality of the product vary at all with chain speed? I'm only asking because there could possibly be some validity to wanting to use a 'slower' saw?

I don't want to turn this in to a classifieds ad, but if you're truly interested in that format of saw for milling and want to do it on a budget PM me and perhaps I can help you out.

Cheers y'all!

 

When I got the 288XPW several years ago I thought it was the ultimate milling saw.Its incredible of course,but when I got the 2100CD & Mac 125C last year that theory went out the window.....


I've never seen anything like the 125,equal in HP/torque to the legendary Stihl 090,but 7 pounds lighter with 3000 more RPM's 11,000 vs 8000 approximately. Its definitely not a ''slow old saw" by any means.

 

The old mac's, in the right hands, can really haul the mail...
No question!!!

 

So are you going to go with a knockoff?

 

That thing is JUNK get rid of it

 

Well did you get one?