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Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by Certified106, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. papadave

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    Dave, seems to me, everything I've read says that cellulose is more resistant to airflow than FG.
    Likely, HD has a better margin on the FG, so they push it.
     
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    Cellulose is a much better option for a lot of reasons...

    Big one is that it acts as its own air barrier
    Better effective R value per inch
    doesn't loose R value as much when compacted vs FG.
    It doesn't itch.
    Its cheaper to produce and to buy (just recycle newspaper)
    Its a recycled material and more env. friendly.
    It doesn't give off as many nasty chemicals in the event of a house fire.

    Modern cellulose is treated with borates for fire and bug resistance. Try taking a match to it... wont light.

    The only thing where FG has an edge is wet performance. Thats easy, dont have leaks ;)
     
  3. Certified106

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    @jharkin thanks for the reasoning behind using it. At least I got one thing right this year :rofl: :lol:
     
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  4. Stinny

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    Do you have a flat floor area all around the ladder opening... but maybe the ladder sticks up in the attic space a bit? If you do, ya might be able to do what we did at the farm. Made a "box" cover. I bought 2" blue styofoam board insulation, got out the benchsaw. Made narrow 6" strips for the sides and bonded & strap taped it together with a panel large enough to be outside of the ladder opening. It worked perfectly and was light weight too, when lifting it off to get up there.
     
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  5. papadave

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    Thought of making a cover up in the attic, but my wife has stuff up there she accesses fairly often.
    W/o some place to put it when she ascends the stairs, I can see it getting torn up.
    Probably worth it even if it only lasts one winter.
    Got me thinkin' again Stinny, and we know that can't be gooder.:hair:
     
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  6. Stinny

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    :rofl: :lol:... I know, I know... sorry... :picard:
     
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  7. Certified106

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    Ok so I spent a bunch of time playing around with the attic access to figure out how I wanted to try to seal it and round one is done for now. First I pulled all the trim pieces down and put them back up after putting silicone all the way around where they would seal to the drywall. I then caulked the framed in access inside the attic and caulked the inside of the trim pieces. Next I glued 3 pieces of 1" thick foam down to the bottom side of the access drywall and placed rolled insulation on top of that and set the access in place.

    I think I am going to do one final thing after a trip to the hardware store. I am going to get some 1/4"-3/8" soft foam weatherstripping and place it on the back side of the trim pieces so the access lays against it flush when in place. Then I am going to place some small weights on the back of the drywall to make sure it presses down against it for a good seal. Any other suggestions?

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  8. papadave

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    Pretty sure the weight of all that will seal some soft foam weatherstripping.

    I'd say you did pretty good there.
    You may not even need the T6 this winter.:D
     
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  9. pellet head

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    Looks awesome. I work In weatherization in update NY.
     
  10. Stinny

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    Nice job Cert!
     
  11. Certified106

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    Thanks guys, this whole day has been a real drag....... I would have rather been doing just about anything else than all the little finishing touches. However I think they have all been necessary. While I had the caulking out I spent 2 hours trying to seal every other little nook and cranny around the house so hopefully that helps out some. I think I am finally getting close to ready for the winter.
     
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  12. Stinny

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    When the wind howls, and it's 20 below... whatever temp you got going on at the time inside... will be easier to maintain by far. That'll be a mighty sweet feeling long after you forgot what a PITA the job was... :yes:
     
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    Looks good to me, I had the problem of the access not being heavy enough to press as firmly as I wanted on the foam weatherstripping also, I ended up running a line or two of Mortite around it, not too attractive but my access is hidden, maybe there is white mortite.
     
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    You hired an infidel to insulate your attic instead:rofl: :lol:
     
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    Built a box to go over the top of some attic pulldown stairs in a rental house I had... Plywood and foamboard attached.. Built a similar one for my sister's house. Here's the basic box. Didn't get final pics of the whole thing installed. Did 4 inches of foam board on the side and 6 inches on the top. The big difference is made by cutting the airflow of warm air escaping to the attic. Not too hard to move for attic access when needed.

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    That's almost exactly how I built my attic access, works great. When I get into the attic for Christmas decorations every winter, it's like being in a wind tunnel while standing in the access hole. Definitely best to stop the air leaks there.
     
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    I predict your wood usage will go down by 1/3, cooling bill too.
    Attic insulation is the best bang for your buck and relatively easy to install. Pays you back year after year.
     
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    We did the same thing last fall. It made a HUGE difference.
     
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