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AS on the way....

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Eckie, Oct 8, 2021.

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  1. Eckie

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    Ha, learned something new again! Never would have thought that. I really did think it'd be the other way. Yall gonna learn me something yet....
     
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    I watched a yt vid the other day of some guy moving an IS, and he took the door and other pieces/parts off/out. And in hadowajp's thread, there is talk about pieces that can be removed from the Progess....

    What pieces/parts can be removed from the AS to lighten for installation? Simple and easy pieces, not looking to have to realign the stars or play jenga to get it back together.
     
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    As far as single wall pipe, I've got some thats over 30 years old and still in good shape, you can buy the cheap chit or the thick single wall which lasts for a very long time with correct burning practices.
     
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    Should be instructions in the manual available on Woodstock site. Given the 6-7 hundred pounds, i'd be looking to pull everything off & out i could. The door, the bricks inside (definite jenga session), the side panels, perhaps the top or part of it, the cat comes out. A few friends also make the stove lighter.
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    I bought some wheels from menards to put under the legs of the IS and wheeled it in from garage by myself with just the top plate and side panels off. Couple of jacks and pieces of plywood made it work well, with the wheels under the stove i can move it easily by myself.
     
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    Eckie , can I jump in on your thread?

    Hoarders we're looking at a wood stove and recommended pipe height is 29.5'. That won't work here, would be 15' sticking up in the air above the ridgeline of my ranch home, until the first gust comes along that is.

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    What elevation?
    How many elbows you need? 45's or 90*?
     
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    7-8K elevation
    2 45's (looks like the 22.5' accounts for them)
    one 2' horizontal run
    one T

    is where I got 29.5' from.
     
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    Pretty much exactly this:
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    At 1000', like we are here, I'd say a 18-20' chimney of that configuration would be fine on most stoves, but at 7.8k I'm not sure what it'd take...are you still looking at a BK, or considering a WS now?
     
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    Still on the BK, we'd have a local dealer for the first time ever, avoid WS shipping any possible freight damage. (I jumped on this thread because I saw pipe height being discussed and thought Eckie wouldnt mind)
     
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    I'd call BK, they are really good about dealing with figuring out chimney issues...and used to dealing with your elevation too.
    Or maybe we can just tag BKVP for a direct answer...
     
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    I must be missing something, no pipes stick up 15' over homes in town, you know WWW does a lot of roofs.... I KNOW there are ranch homes here with BK's that don't have 30' stack. And BK insert that was here drafted fine in our ~18' concrete chimney. Thanks for tagging him B :)
     
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    29 ft of pipe! Gracious!

    I will say, that I think I need a bit more pipe on my AS. If I build a fire the "traditional way" (smal kindling fire, then build up from there), I get smoke spillage when I open to add wood, unless I open it just a bit and throw a piece in. Sometimes then I may not get smoke, but more than likely I will. But it's impossible to open up and load wood like I see most people do. Near the end of season, I started doing what is pretty much the "top down" method, which works since if I do it right I don't have to open the door till that fire is pretty much done (down to coals).
     
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    Yes, a lot of pipe, glad your finding things that work for you on your spiffy AS :) Maybe could add another 2' this summer, and see if helps the smoke spillage next fall? Our dealer is out of town this week, he has like 50 years of experience, I'll talk to him next week unless the VP comes here.
     
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    And your chimney is on the shorter end too, right?
    But you also what, 7000' lower than WW's location?
     
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    I talked to Dealers installer. He said "Rule of thumb around here is 18' " Great!

    brenndatomu , how about a field trip and we can meet at @eckies and put an extension on his stack? I'm curious if that would help a lot.
     
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    Yes, some website I just used said my house is around 341'. And yes, my chimney is on the short end. I need to measure and post sometime, and also show pics of the tops of the stack (which is the rhino rigid pipe) to get suggestions on how I could hook chimney pipe to it...
     
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    Road Trip!!! Haha, yall come-on!

    Actually glad I have a short pipe for now. I meant to post a thread on this last week, but forgot. Went fishing in my chimney
    .....look what I caught!

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    Eckie you could just put a blower in your 6” pipe wire it to a switch and solve problem. The real issue with IS and AS is the large glass loading door; which is beautiful but hard to get all that air up a 6 inch circle without help until it’s hot
     
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