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Vogelzang Highlander Blower motor replacement?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by clemsonfor, Aug 15, 2021.

  1. Horkn

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    I think they are just called cage blower motors, but they are kind of hard to find without a fan cage on them.

    Otherwise if this fits, you could retrofit something like this in.
     
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    Yea, if the price is right I'll get it all and canabalize or use the motor. If I can get the cages and shrouds in the existing housing I will make them work. I have cutoff wheels, welder, drill etc I can make it work. But I have certain size limitations that I am working with and it's pretty much what I have now. Now I could leave the existing housing off and mount dual cages up maybe. I have even thought of trying to find a generic. Version of the new style. Welding up the two outboard holes I have and making the center longer single slot. I have some options here. May just need to order a bunch of stuff on Amazon, get my hands on it and see the sizes since their descriptions are often lacking or totally wrong. I also want to stay with at least as much power as I have and same RPM, which these turned 3000 which seems to be the upper speed for these small motors. It barely felt like it moves any air as is when working. If I can get better air flow after this that will be a plus too.
     
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    Those look promising. I need to take that overall size out to the shed to see if they will fit. I don't see the opening outlet size at least quick glance just now.

    I added them to my cart.
     
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    Something like this would work and I have considered this as an option. Bolt it in place. I guess I can make more slots if needed if these fit in the housing and the others don't. This is just going to take me getting some more detailed measurements of the housing and comparing it to these cages and spacing to see if this matches up or the others do without having to cut the stove and weld new on etc.
     
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    I see that these have the Motors on the same side, so not mirror images like yours. They might still work though. Looks like yours mount to the bottom plate, which would be simple, if there's room.
     
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    Yea the housing that holds the squirrel cage just bolts to the housing exterior. The technically mount on the rear panel and the blower outlet point upward. And blow though the inner walls of 4he stove and out the top outlets on front of the stove .
     
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    Here is just the blower and cage without the wires and thermostats.


    $16

    Going to measure my housing and see if this will fit inside. Hoping so. I probably will order one and see what I can make happen. Amazon is easy for returns and that price is just right.
     
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    Sounds like a plan.

    If it fits, it ships!
     
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    Yep it will fit in the housing...wait I forgot to measure the length. Have to go check that. But the height and width were good. I was thinking the length of it was good from what I remember.
     
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    Length is almost spot on to what's in there. I'm almost wondering if this will fit very close. The one question is will it work on the opposite side. Didn't think about motor being outboard...I was thinking I could turn it where it would face inside as well. Maybe I can disassemble the one where motor goes outboard and use it to power the existing setup. The measurements are so close according to what Amazon lists to mine to think they physically will occupy the sa.e space as originals. We will see when it gets here.
     
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    Will direction of rotation be an issue if you flip it over? I know I saw both CW and CCW motors...
     
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    This is one of those mond things for me. Having trouble thinking it though. I originally though I could flip it, then today I was thinking it wouldn't work. Now I just can't think it through in my head. Haha. Air needs to blow up. Motor can't be reversed by switching polarity cause the cage only blows one way. If you flip motor I think it puts the discharge away from the wall it would need to mount on??? I need to have the thing in my hands. I ordered one to work with. If I destroy it messing with it, so be it. It didn't cost much. I know it will work on one side though so I will try to make it work for the opposite side then get another.
     
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    Ok the motor came in. We have excellent Prime service around here. It's normal. I ordered it whatever day I said I did. That's about normal these days for prime, it takes 4 to 10 days usually to get most prime things.

    The motor is the wrong side for the one that I removed. It will work for the other side. BUT if you look at the picture the motor looks like it turns in counter clockwise to the housing with tabs. The screw I'm pointing to looks like it just keep it from backing off. I have not got it loose from the housing yet but I believe bi can get it off. The other side has the same cutout tabs to interlock with the motor mounts. The far side has a silicone stopper with a brass bushing that the saft rides in. Looks like you just pull motor off slide shaft out, pull the plug out stick it through on the other side and twist motor to lock on the other side and then put the end cap back on the other side. 16297562209604044884602164905979.jpg 16297564569126239708568813685587.jpg
     
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    Not for a grounding point?
     
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    Won't that leave the whole thing turning the wrong way? Or can the motor direction be reversed? I seen that some of these are that way
     
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    Could be but that bracket also keeps that motor from coming loose as well.
     
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    I think it will turn the wrong way but if I swap the squirrel cage 180° won't that fix that as well?
     
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    Isn't that the same thing as flipping the whole thing end for end? I dunno...its been a long day, and sometimes I can't visualize stuff like this without the part in front of me...
     
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    I'm like you it's hard and I don't want to take that much brain power to think it through. It is like flipping end for end but if I just flip it 180° without swapping anything the output won't line up with the Hole in the square housing the motor bolts to which inturn the whole thing bolts to the stove.
     
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    I am more of a physical visualizer myself as well.

    Hopefully you can make that new one work.
     
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