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Sub Compact Tractor Purchase

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Finzwake, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. Well Seasoned

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    Mine sat outside a year until I put up a pole barn (with the tractors help)


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    At least now it's under cover with all the snow we get.

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  2. Canadian border VT

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    A quick lean to is a good idea, IMO. Go talk to any mechanic or go to a dealer look at used can tell in seconds if stored inside or out.. in my mind this is a big $$ purchase I only want to pay it once.
     
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    Even the portable car ports either fabric or metal offer good protection.
     
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  4. Finzwake

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    Thanks all

    yes, storing outside is something I won’t be able to avoid. Glad your brought this up as I hadn’t given this too much thought.

    Big $ item for me (anyone)... going to keep reading, researching... make a decision and change my mind in the morning... some things never change
     
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    That's the best possible way. It's a lot of money for most of us here. Unless your needs change you'll have it long after the payments end so it's best to get what you want/need the first time around.
     
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    Heck, even a shelterlogic would do the trick. Cover the shelterlogic cover with a cheap tarp and replace every 2 years, it'll last forever. Take your time, big $ decision. The more time you take the more you'll learn and be able to find something that works best for you. :)
     
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    And keep asking ??s. Those of us with tractors will say I wish I’d done this differently.. the biggest challenge for me is recommending a tractor without seeing where it will be used
     
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  8. Finzwake

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    It’s going to happen - just not sure what and when

    Right now, my usage would be lots of top soil, mulch/wood chips, firewood hauling uphill and around curves in a relatively tight yard

    That’s today...

    At some point in the future, I hope to relocate to an area outside on NJ with much more land.

    Among the hundreds of things going through my mind about this: buy for today or buy for tomorrow?

    If I had nothing but money, I’d be writing from the seat of my tractor right now.

    Smart money says buy for tomorrow... but what I can’t account for - none of us can.... - is where will I be tomorrow and how will my needs be different?

    The thought of dropping $10k - $25k makes me break out in a sweat... doing it twice? There’s not enough Tums in the world.

    Then the little person on my other shoulder says the resale value is strong enough so go for it... pull the trigger for what I need today and worry about tomorrow... well, tomorrow

    I want a tractor... I can make great use of a tractor...

    I have time but expect that by late March I’ll be posting a picture... of something...?

    Thanks for your patience everyone
     
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    We paid 26k 12yr ago, and have used it, but from what I see online it still has 60% or more of its value.
    Buying too small for today is a mistake, but buying right for today and then dealing with a change of needs in the future isn’t very risky. Just stick with JD or Kubota for the resale value.
     
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    Agreed ^^^

    Your current situation requires much less than your hoped for future.

    Buy what you need for your current needs (with a little bit of excess :whistle:), and use it as a trade in when/if you need to upgrade.

    You don't know what the future will bring, but you do know your current needs.

    BTW.. speaking of current needs, if the work you need done (and your location) is of a temporary nature, do consider rental for now while saving for the future.

    You'll gain valuable information about capabilities and handicaps of the equipment without buyers remorse.

    $.02
     
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    And keep it waxed, touch up scratches, don't pile stuff on it ect. and even better resale numbers will happen.
     
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    Wax on the spring to do list! Thx for reminder!
     
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    I keep going in to “build” a Kubota... now I’m gravitating toward the B2650 vs the BX

    In both cases, lots of hydraulic upgrades...

    For the B2650:

    Mounting Base with Valve Kits
    None

    HYDRAULIC VALVE KIT (B7309C)

    PLUS 2ND POSITION VALVE KIT (CHOICE OF VALVE FOR 2ND POSITION) (BL7343 & B7309C)

    PLUS 3RD POSITION VALVE KIT (CHOICE OF VALVE FOR 2ND & 3RD POSITIONS) (BL7343 & BL7353 & B7309C)

    Another:
    Third Function Valve
    3RD FUNCTION VALVE KIT FOR ROPS (B7308A)

    I understand the 3rd function (I think) but have no clue what the Hydraulic Value Kit represents. Can’t find documentation at all

    For the BX2680:

    Mounting Base with Valve Kits
    DOUBLE-ACTING REAR REMOTE VALVE (BX2419)

    Many seem to recommend all available hydraulic upgrades and I haven’t been to a dealer yet to get more info on what the do - especially the rear

    I am considering the rental of a unit - at least for the 1st block of projects. I’ve rented in past years but didn’t really play around with what they could do at the time... just rented, worked it, returned it
     
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  14. Finzwake

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    Just back from Kubota dealer... figured out all the valve talk.

    $20,200 for B2650 with Loader and 3rd Function valve

    Don’t believe I’ll make use of Rear Remote Valves and the guy said it won’t help resale/I won’t recoup the investment so I’m passing on that

    In another post, somebody was talking about Wheel Spacers and how they helped with chains... Canadian Boarder - was it you maybe? Anyway another $300 for the wheel spacers

    So $20,500. 0% interstate for 60 months

    Still need ballast box and forks. Should I stick with Kubota or after-market?

    They also have a 2016 L2501 with loader w/ 66” bucket and 3rd function... 160 hours. $15,500. Doesn’t qualify for the No Interest deal, though, and may be a bit too large for me to easily navigate in/around my yard

    $5,000 savings is pretty attractive though
     
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    I don’t think so on spacers mmm. Well Seasoned
    How many hours on the 2501?
     
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    Here's what the 3rd function kit looks like from front to loader valve.

    Connection for grapple, plow, etc

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    The power beyond (not sure that's what it's called)

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    And the loader valve. The push button turns on/off the 3rd function and the buttons turn plow or open close a grapple etc. Guessing your in the NJ highlands area? If so, your get your share of snow, so 3rd function would be helpful.

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    I didn't get rear remotes. Just 3rd function, easily added if need be for the rear.
     
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    I'm approaching 200 on the B2650 :yes:
     
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    Remember, the B2650 has more hydro power than some of the L series, giving you more umph for breakout force and loader capacity, but a smaller frame for maneuverability (many have seen areas on my property are tight) and less weight than that of an L, you'll want ballast AND loaded tires. Alot of decisions to think about, but other than weight, will spending money on a ballast box help with anything else other than ballast? Would taking advantage of kabotas implement deal be more cost effective for you? Remember the loader itself is an implement, so any implements after the first one is reduced. Hopefully kubota has that deal at the moment- they should! (they should do % off anything beyond your first implement) would a useful box blade be better than a ballast box? Or rear forks? With rear forks, you can custom build a ballast box out of a skid, with sides etc.

    Trust me, (others said the same thing when I was buying) there's stuff right now you won't even think of that you'll use that tractor for.

    Regarding wheel spacers..... get them, I wish I did! I've been saying that for a year, wishing I had them on when I bought the bota, but nope, not yet! Below you'll see how close the chains are to my fenders. In the second pic, you'll see the crumbled fender that I bent back into place when just a little bit of chain or a rock or something grazed it!

    They will give you a little wider clearance, and you'll be able to accept chains without any worry.

    Lucky so far......


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    Not so lucky..... :rofl: :lol:


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    I just noticed that the lift capacity of the 2501 is somewhat less... didn’t expect that. The extra weigh of the tractor, however, is a bonus

    Rear forks...?!? Wasn’t even aware such a thing existed. I’ll check that out: Rear forks with homemade ballast.

    Yes... northern NJ... potential for plenty of snow although nothing much to speak of this year

    Kubota is offering a deal on implements now which, given the discount and the potential to finance, I should consider.

    I definitely need the loader. I like the idea of front forks because I get some pretty large logs dropped off - forms will allow me to cradle these up to where I split. I like the idea of the rear forks with self-made ballast box but i have to research them more... not sure how else they might be utilized... yet

    Thanks for the great ideas..!
     
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    I wish I could have had a factory 3rd function.
     
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