ANSI Z133 , Commercial tree/wood cutting rule ?

Was just surfing around found this

Bottom left in red : Says
ANSI Z133.1/5.7.7 states that–
“A green log weight chart shall be available to the crew.”

Scotty or others,
do you have to have a chart like this posted when your crew is cutting ?

http://www.sherrilltree.com/site/pdfs/Log_WeightChart.pdf



http://tcia.org/safety/regulatory-compliance

 

What a strange regulation

 

Me thinks it has something to do with crane operators. But they better be better than needing a caliper and tape measure to figure out every cut.

 

I didn't down load the reg.
but sounds similar the gazillions we dealt with in the oil patch.

The lawyers said "shall be" meant "do it" , "we have no choice " .

 

has to do with workers carrying rounds. ansi/osha says no more than 50lbs by ones self, so a 20"x12" oak round would take 3 people per osha regs.

 

I was doing some looking a the wood weights,
the yellow birch matched pretty good to the birch here
I cut 17", so I multiply by 1.4
No wonder I to roll over 16"

 

That's an interesting chart. Would be a good on the resource page.

 

Thanks Bogy. Clear explanation for my back pains!

 

Should send a copy to my wife so she knows why I need the extra TLC after a day of "wood processing in the back "40".................LOL

 

I know when I load them on the wood trailer
the big rounds have to be on the the bottom , & watch you don't get your fingers in the way.
I had a few 20" diameter ones, chart shows 173 lbs
Sure, I can lift them, but why & at what risk ?
Doing that kind of stuff 30 years ago is what injured my back.

You guys with big wood, man, be careful & smart moving the big rounds.

 

My senior citizen "Big Round" mover.............. Works for old guys like me with a 3 bad disc back.

 

Yea, that's sweet
Wish they allowed equipment in the cutting area,
Make it much easier.

But at least they allow PU, atv & snow machine .
I've had a couple trailer loads with just 3 rounds, built a ramp to roll them on.
Hydraulic assit would be sweet !

 

Working in the part time in the woods since I was 17 & heavy commercial construction since early 20's I've had more than my share of back & shoulder problems over the years.Nice thing is especially now that I'm older when working for contractor they always have you paired up with someone,no matter what your age. They don't expect 1 guy to have to lift over 50-75 lbs by themselves.

They have machines and/or plenty of extra muscle when needed.Sure didn't treat me like that when I was 20 to 35....

When doing wood processing or other strenuous stuff by myself (which is about 99% of the time) I just take more breaks,make the pieces smaller to handle & don't try to get it all done in 1 day.Have nothing to prove now,time to slow down & take things easy for a change.


PS: According to that chart,that monster 36" diameter Honey Locust round that's been sitting in backyard since August 2012 (I'll mill it one of these days,honest) weighs approximately 1293 pounds!!! No wonder Dad & I had such a Hell of a time rolling it less than 6 feet into its current spot.....

 

Small tractors are a life saver

 

Those hickory rounds I loaded yesterday were about 175 each. That's about what I weigh.

11 on the trailer. 2k on a 1k trailer. Could have something to do with GCWR too?

 

Oh good greif...

 

Its getting stupid... I work for an emergency rental company... big diesel generators and stuff.. our cable starts at 4/0 50' lengths, that is 55lbs.. osha says we "can't" pick up 50lbs by ourselves anymore... what about the 75lbs for the next one up, or the 110lbs 100' foot length.. I pick up and lay down 100-200 pieces of 50, 75 or 100lb cable a day.... tell that to the boss he needs to hire another guy to help pull cable...or if I say my back hurts I won't have a job.. lol

 

Freakin, I've known enough bosses to tell you "Be careful". If the boss knows you are aware of osha's weight lifting limit/guidelines and you get hurt by lifting more than the guideline...all bets are off!

 

I hear you, but I also know the reality of my job. We are not a normal 8-5 type business. Many hazards and dangers involved with my job. Common sense goes a long ways, and most people these days don't seem to know anything about common sense, or a good work ethic. My boss sends me on jobs by myself that should require 2-3 people because he knows I'll get it done, we work stupid emergency length hours 16-24hour shifts in ice storms/tornados/hurricanes, etc. they are well aware of the consequences and once someone gets hurt, then things will change. If I can't pick up the cable I've picked up for the last 12 years, I won't have a job. If I get hurt, I may or may not have a job. I'm more likely to get hurt at home working on trees, climbing trees, hauling firewood, cutting my leg off, etc... again, common sense.

 

You are right !
You are talking "real world" stuff.
We're talking needless & senseless Gov't regulations . LOL
Big difference !

Some regs, Like yooperdave said are there to protect the employer.
We had an HR Department.
It's main mission was "to protect the company from it's employees"

Anyway, if you think it's to much weight to lift by yourself, ask for help from others on the crew,
Co-workers helping each other, works better than any safety regulation on a piece of paper.

The chart I posted is to make folks like me , working by themselves,
realize the weight of the rounds & use "gray matter" & "mechanical advantage" tools to prevent me
hurting myself.
Hard to believe a 17" long, 16" diameter piece of wood is so heavy
Not that I can't lift it, I just shouldn't.
After surgery, I have a what I call a "shear pin", when I start lifting heavy stuff,
if it's to heavy I get a little twang in my back, (warning alarm) I stop & drop it right there.
If I go any farther, I'm gimping around for weeks/months, calling myself "stupid"