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wood shed build

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by DaveGunter, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. DaveGunter

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    I got tired of looking at this on the edge of our parking area and it was in the way of snow removal.
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    So I built this over the weekend.
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    It is now completely full with about 4 cords of 15/16 wood. Now I need a roof, any suggestions? I am not putting any sides on it so I would like a little overhang. An 8ft piece would give me about 6" overhang on the front and back, or I could put all the over hang to the back and build small front overhang sloping forward. From the pallet deck it is 6.5' in the front and 5' in the back. I'm trying to keep it simple and cheap, I've got about $30 in it right now with screws and PT 6x6 blocks. I'm thinking plywood and asphalt shingles or would treated plywood hold up and not need shingles. Maybe corrugated plastic or metal roofing, I'm thinking they might be a little flimsy unless attached to a plywood deck.

    Here is a picture of my supervisor, on deer/coyote guard duty.
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  2. papadave

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    Dave, nice job so far.
    I thought of using pine or poplar logs before I built mine too.
    If I had it to do over, I would put as much overhang on the back as possible.
    When the rain hits, or the snow melts, the dripping will splash back on all that nice dry wood, making it undry.:mad:
    One foot isn't enough, in my opinion, unless you do a gutter, which I doubt you'll do (I didn't).
    If you use 2x material, get at least 10', and build out the front like you were thinking. If logs, same thing.
    HTH
     
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  3. Lumber-Jack

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    Nice start on the shed.
    What I'd do for the roof is use 10 ft (or 12 ft long if you want a better overhang) 2x8 or 2X6 rafters on 2 ft centers, box the ends and strap the rafters with 1x4s on 16" centers (much cheaper then using plywood) and clad it with inexpensive galvanized metal roofing. The nice thing about metal is it goes on quick, last forever, and can be re-used on another project if you ever decide to redo or build another structure.
    If you screw everything together instead of nailing it gives you the option of one day easily unscrewing the whole thing and reusing the material on another project. You can get away with putting the 1x4 strapping on 2 ft centers instead of 16" centers, but if you ever walk on the roof you have to be very careful where you walk, you could damage the metal roofing if you step in between the strapping. For a few dollars more you buy a few extra 1x4s (very cheap) and strap it on 16" centers and you can step anywhere in between strapping and the metal won't bend or be damaged.
     
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    Nice! Way to go using what mother nature gave you!
     
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    Keep going with the log idea!! That's slick looking!!
    I'd go 10' for extra overhang...
    As stated above, ultimately, the galvanized metal roof is your best bet, whatever you decide to attach it to...
     
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    Nice rustic look & a good design

    Treated ply wood without a cover will only last so long & when wet it will sag & leak at the seams.
    I got some damaged roll roofing from Lowes & HD for 1/2 price.

    Agree with above, metal is best, but probably the most $$
    + a sloping front overhang with metal is more work .
    But it would look great.

    Snow load is the key factor to your roof design, lots of snow need a strong roof ;)

    **A redneck would lay a few poles on top & throw a tarp over it.
    I did the tarp thing & a few weeks later the wind removed them. LOL :rofl: :lol: **
     
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    OSB makes good, cheap roof sheathing. Corrugated metal on top.
     
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  8. DaveGunter

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    Sounds like metal is the way to go. I found a metal roofing supplier not too far away. They supply 3' panels in any length you specify and a bunch of colors. Six 10' panels and a bag of screws with rubber gaskets to attach them will run me around $160, so the whole project will be under $200. That would give me a two foot overhang on the back and one foot on the front and sides. I'm not too worried about snow load, a big storm is 24", and it would probably take 5 minutes to rake it off and I don't plan on walking on it. I think I can add a few more supports and I'll be good to go.

    This was actually a " trial run" for a much larger shed that I will build as I burn through my stacks for this winter that are currently under plastic much like the stack in the picture. I can't wait to be rid of tarps.

    Thanks for the help, I was ready to go the plywood route, but I think metal will be much better.
     
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    What support do you have under the skids? The weight of the wood will start sagging the skids. Especially critical if they are attached to the beam poles. My skids are bricked at 8 points & they still sink unevenly. Just something to watch out for.
     
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    Dave, this sounds like it will turn out really well. Chvymn99 also brought up a good suggestion that I had not considered yet.
     
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    Thanks, will do. Just a piece of 6x6 pt on each corner right now. I will see if I can add some more. I don't think they will sink into the ground, as it is backfill that is mostly fine gravel, but I can imagine the weight might bend the wood. The pallets I chose were fairly new and oak so hopefully they will hold up. My workplace has tons of pallets, I go by where they keep them every once in awhile checking for pallets made from pt wood, they put the pt ones in a different pile, I think because the outfit that takes them for recycling has to handle them differently. The pt pallets are usually pretty beat up.
     
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    I've been considering building a similar shed, was thinking about putting the uprights (cedar) in the ground. I like your approach better, no holes to dig, no rot to worry about. Are the joints done half-lap and screwed?
     
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    Only where the poles attach to the pallets. The bottom of the poles are sitting on the pt blocks and the half-lap sitting on the pallet as best as I could fit it with shims pounded in, then screwed to the pallet runners. I might try to half-lap some more of the joints on the next shed. I wish I had some cedar, I hope the spruce will make it a while, the spruce poles are why I want the overhang, to keep them drier. Will also make some changes to allow for roof overhang next time, live and learn...just something I thought I would mess around with on a beautiful fall weekend. I'm not much of a carpenter...I tell my wife I'm only certified for "chainsaw carpentry", here is a pic of a bench the kids and I made for her out of red maple saplings. I told her it's a "work bench" I didn't want it too comfortable...so she wouldn't sit too long before getting back to work.:D
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    Pretty sure that won't be a problem with it upside down.
    She'll fall right out.:rofl: :lol:
     
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    Nice job Dave. Love that Rustic look. With only $30 into it, I would do the metal roof, or plastic?

    Nice chair too... Showed my Wife......... :( Even as uncomfortable as you make it sound?? She wants one. o_O
     
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    Looks like a good use of natural materials you have available. There wasn't always manufactured roofing material,. but learning to roof like they did in the old days would probably be a pain. The Ondura corrugated asphalt panels work out to a less expensive cover than plywood and asphalt rolled roofing, or corrugated metal panels,.unless you are lucky enough to find them at a good price. They look better too. Here, even used metal roofing panels are going for $20 each. Could you post a close up of the joinery of your poles, please?
     

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    You be
    Looks like she's gonna need some seat belts.................I wouldn't be able to sit in it for any length of time as well....LOL
     
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    That's gonna be awesome!! It's looking great so far and you are going to love it when it's done.
     
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    That's funny, it's not upside down on my iPad.
     
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    This is an interesting situation.
    Do the Apple crowd adjust for the PC world, or vicey-vercy?
    Seems as though most Apple users are having this issue, and possibly some Android users too. Not sure.
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