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Weed Killer (Total Kill)

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  1. Chvymn99

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    What do you use? I'm looking for a good weed/grass killer for like gravel driveway, fence line, wood piles and around buildings. I'm kinda of tooling around with Roundup. I dont mind spraying once in while for new emergants, but I'd like to see some decent result.

    Thanks..
     
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    Diesel.
     
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    I never have used it but Pramitol should do what you want. What rate are you using with the gly?
     
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    Can you still buy Pramitol over the counter?

    Gary
     
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    How much spray are you applying? Gly (Roundup) is cheap but effective. I have been doing well with two apps of the extended control round up. 80% of the weeds die after the first app and the second app always finishes off what's next. Best f you can avoid rain within 8-12 hours of spraying and spray in the morning.
     
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    My wife uses a mixture of: a gallon of white vineagor, 2 cups Epsom salts and quarter cup of Dawn dish soap. It works very well.
     
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    I use tractor supply gly with a half ounce of dish soap mixed in per gal. Kills em all dead.

    Every once in a blue moon you will get a weed that is gly resistant but 2,4d or trimec kills those.

    The above post is the green way of doing things but the salt leaves residual and lowers soil ph so if planting anything is in the future, don't use it. Otherwise it works great.
     
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    I've being trying to use the purple lid roundup. I bought the big bottle about 3 years ago. I used it at the suggested ratio just on the heavy side. Its Ok, but definitely doesn't kill like I figure it should. I've tried the GroundClear (black bottle), not very effective. I've used soap to it to help provide some adhesion to the plant.

    Yes, I've tried Vinegar / Clorox, but I'd be constantly spraying. For some reason my drive is great habitat for the weeds. Long sprawling clovey looking stuff...

    Yes, I just bought some Pramitol the other day, from the suggestion of my neighbor. But I was reading the label, didn't see any suggestion rate. Just suggested rate of per acre. I guess, I'll google. So Pramitol must be some good stuff, then? It was like $50 per gallon at the Agricultural store. How long does that stuff take to kill? I'll probably check it out this weekend then.
     
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    Pramitol is good. So is Hyvar.
     
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    Well it sounds like maybe I got the right stuff... I don't remember seeing that hyvar... But they actually had a whole line of stuff, pretty extensive line. For what I'm use to seeing.

    Thanks for all the replys. I'll know hopefully by next weekend. I'd think 7 days would start to show signs...
     
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    You got the right stuff.

    Hyvar isn't that common. I wouldn't use unless you have to because it is pretty pricey ($125/gallon +/-). Over time (years) treated areas will build a resistance to pramitol and you have to switch to something else for total control. We had to use Hyvar at a couple industrial sites where we treated damm near 100 acres of white rock. It had been fed a steady diet of pramitol for years and was no longer effective.

    As for mixing, you can mix it to whatever strength you want to apply it, but stick with the coverage areas pretty closely (maybe 5% stronger than recommended) otherwise you're wasting it or asking it to bleed into adjacent areas.
     
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    I'm not understanding the use of $100 a gal chemicals when $4/gal diesel will work just fine? Doesn't take much at all either.
     
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    I can think of a few reasons. Fire hazard being one.
     
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    http://www.garden-counselor-lawn-care.com/vinegar-weed-killer.html
     
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    Skip the dish soap with the roudup it's not helping. If you want to add something to help it use a liquid ams and a proper crop oil.
     
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    Nate, just a heads-up, spraying diesel fuel onto the ground is illegal.........at least around here in PA it is....
     
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    X2...The EPA wouldn't approve ;)
     
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    I use a product called GlyStar Plus..

    Look at the active ingredient in weed killers.

    Some you have to use 8-10 oz per gallon. That's because it's a diluted concentrate.

    The GlyStar has a fairly high Concentrate. Only takes about 2-3 oz per gallon.


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    I get glystar at agrisupply for $50/ 2.5 gallons. And spraying diesel in a tank mix would not be illegal as its
    An approved use. But straight diesel is allowed so if u put diesel in with glyphosate and have an agitator in there thats allowed more common with things like Garlon that are oil based and need agitation to not desperate.

    And nate a chemical that cost $100/ gallon mixed at say a rate of 3oz to the gallon would yield over 40 gallons of mix
    ..enough to do almost a total acre...40 gallons of diesel would cost you way more than $100 plus be really illegal.
    Nate the glyphosate I buy for $50 will make me 100 gallons mixed on the high side of the label rate which will smoke everything g from grasses to broad leaves to sweet gum and oaks.

    Also dont buy roundup at walmart its like 20x more expensive esp in the qt bottles.

    Read the label the label is the law. The label is really confusing also it will contradict it self sometimes.
    And there are so many different rates of glyphosate you can mix at based on type of equipment and amount you are spraying ie. Spot spraying or total acerage spraying.

    And I dont use a lot of chemical a year but its way cheaper to buy it in 2.5 gallon jugs.
    Also take anything I say for what its worth but I do hold a professional applicators license and have for 3 years now.
     
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    Oh should of mentioned if you want a pre emergent you want a chemical with imazapeur in it (check spelling) it is soul active and will remain active in dirt for up to a yr.

    TSC and other stores sell a blend of this with glyphosate the gly quick browns for instant gradification and the imza works longterm stopping sprouts season long.

    Some chemicals with a forestry trade name that we use is Aresonal its also uses on the railroad ROW. Its is pretty pricey but forest industry loves it cause it can be sprayed over pines and not harm them after a certain age. So you kill all the herbacious stuff and the hardwoods just leaving g pines to grow.