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Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by jeffthro, Nov 10, 2022.

  1. jeffthro

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    Just got a Drolet escape 1800. Love it. Can it get hot enough to damage the stove? Got it up to 600 degrees last night. Thermometer and laser heat gun. All dampers closed. Nearest walls didn't get hot.
     
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    600 should not be a problem.
     
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    Sounds like a normal operation temp. Other tube stove and hybrids operate around that and around 700 or so. Things take a little time to balance out but as long as your wood isn't kiln dried or lumber from Home Depot, you'll be fine. For most it helps to time your start up and then close it up (air intakes) to the max efficiency levels. I'm also bringing this up as to stay on the side of your wood is dry already.

    Also, welcome to FHC!
     
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    Most modern noncat stoves will run hot. With noncat technology, burning hot is how they burn clean. You should have very little control over that or you would create pollution. Historically, the owner's manuals simply said that unless external parts of the stove are glowing it is not too hot. Some actually specified 800 as the maximum temperature before it was considered overfired.

    600 is quite cool and safe. I like to run my plate steel noncat in the 750 range for high output while still being safe.
     
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    Yeah I don't get too worried about it unless things are headed over 800*F...that's on a Drolet 1400i...and it depends where you are taking the temps from too...every model has its own "hot spots" or best places to take the temp sample from.
     
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    Welcome to the FHC :handshake:
    My stove is usually 600.
     
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    When I purchased the ht3000 I was talking to one of the SBI service reps. He said it’s not a problem for the stove top temp to get up to 900*f ! I was surprised and asked several times to make sure there was no miscommunication.
     
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    It's not always the temperature but how fast it gets there that causes the problems.
     
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    ...sounds like a previous relationship....man, talk about warping.
    Overfired and burned out.
    Wasnt meant to be I guess...

    Edit: this was about wood stoves......our Jotul has the afterburners, I don't mind seeing 700°, but damping happens shortly because I'm not interested in seeing 800°.
     
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    900 is pushing it IMO...turn the lights out and you can start to see steel glow a dull red in the 9-950* range! :eek:
     
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    Yeah, I’m just passing on info I was given definitely not recommending.
     
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    By the time the stove top is 900, the interior bits have been much hotter for a while. Even the flue temperatures which are not supposed to be over 1000 have almost certainly approached or exceeded 1000 as their passage has pushed the stove top to 900.
     
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    My Drolet Escape 1800 (mfg 2019) routinely sees a stove top temp of 700F. Maybe 750 if it’s below zero outside.
    Absolutely no problems or warping.
    She really throws the heat with dry oak.
     
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    Some manufacturers still call 800, "generally over firing”
     

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    "Exceeding 800 is generally considered overfiring and will void your warranty". And then of course there is no hidden temperature disc like you see on rebuilt engines that pop off when you hit 800 so these companies love to void your warranty anytime they think that they can blame a failure on overfiring.
     
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    Hard to get a plate steel, welded stove TOO hot unless you totally ABUSE it.........................It's hard to abuse, because most that would attempt to abuse it will try and burn GREEN wood in it.................and it'll likely not burn well, if at all!!!!
     
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    I try to get close to that too hot line and even though nothing on the outside of my stove has ever glowed, the paint (cheaper rustoleum high heat), has whitened in the normal areas. Seems the paint isn't as tough as the steel.

    Part of the safety testing for these stoves is to run them wide open using the test fuel which is quite dry since they are also trying to be low emisssions. I agree that it is actually pretty difficult to overfire a plate steel welded stove with normal fuel. The first thing that gets too hot on my setups is the chimney.
     
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